Haven Fest April 13th 9PM

March 25, 2014 By: Flair Category: Atlantic News

Since there are new governors in some of the towns I ask that the new governors please contact me concerning their towns for Haven Fest. For unrepresented towns, if someone or a guild would like to represent a town please message me or Dante (screen name Brock in Stratics forums), or leave a reply here to let us know so that all towns are represented.

I will restate the meaning behind this event for those that may have not been able to go to a Haven Fest yet. Haven Fest is an event for introducing new players into the world of UO, it helps out by handing out items to them so that they can begin with better equipment, and it also allows them to meet players from around the shard. It has been wonderful to see the number of people that come together for this event, the positive feedback, and the excitement the event brings to the entire UO community.

I would still like to see the towns add mini events to their contribution to Haven Fest, for this month I will put a time for each town to hold their event. Please keep the mini events short, this way new players have the option of doing numerous things during the night.
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I would prefer that should towns decide to hold an event that scheduled times not be needed, because as you see it makes the event run late. My desired outcome is that each town do their mini events throughout the night repeatedly, similar to game booths in amusement parks.

Another idea that popped into my head was an addition of a vendor area. It would be limited to 4-6 tables so if you would like to promote your player vendor by having a booth leave a message here.
Also let me if you would like to volunteer be the ‘tavern keeper’ so that haven fest has food and drinks served.
I made an image of placement of these areas. Please let me know your thoughts.
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[NEWS]New Reporters

March 24, 2014 By: Lady Tia Category: Catskills News

Please give a great big Catskills welcome to our two newest reports….Ludes and Norrar (aka Va’lis). Welcome Gentlemen and good luck!

News and event information can be sent to [email protected]

(Player Event) The Exodus Encounter (39)

March 24, 2014 By: Frarc Category: Drachenfels News

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The Exodus Encounter

30 March 2014

The Thirty-nine Exodus Encounter will be next Sunday.

We gathering at West Britain Bank and Leaving at 20:30 CET.

Be sure to read all about the Summoning of Exodus : Here

If you can, try to make sure you have at least 3 of the 4 Keys. (Robe,Dagger, Rite).

Each group only needs 1 altar but need the other 3 keys for everyone else.

We will gather as many extra keys we can before Sunday to pass around if needed.

Everyone is welcome to join!

Hope to see you all on Sunday.

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(Player Event) Eternal Friends Hunts: Champion Spawn Hunt

March 24, 2014 By: Frarc Category: Drachenfels News

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Eternal Friends Hunts:

Eternal Friends hunt: Champion Spawn Hunt
Original post by Anjanca

We would like to invite all adventurers to go to a hunt with us.

On Monday the 24th March 2014 visit “the” champ spawn.

We gather at west bank britain and head out at 19:00 CET.

If you can’t join us from the start, watch the general and/or alliance chat chat where we’ll rock the evening.

Greetings

Anjanca [E@F], Duchess and Governor of Britain

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[News] The Week-end Madness: Edition Number: LVII

March 24, 2014 By: Frarc Category: Drachenfels News

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The Week-end Madness

Edition Number: LVII

Spring is in the air and exciting times are coming to us in Sosaria.

The Easter bunny was seen across the land.

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He brought us little ducklings!

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And we received a Broadsword plaque at the bank.

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We had the 5th edition of deal or no deal on Friday evening.

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With many winners:

Round One:
NinaLuna went all the way and claimed her box, which contained 2.000 gold

Bonus Winners: Round One
Bumaderangy won a Check of 250.000 gold
Eysha won a Check of 250.000 gold
Lilli won a Check of 250.000 gold

Round Two:
Irilia Windtanz made a deal on 1.375.912 gold

Bonus Winners: Round Two
Eysha won a Check of 250.000 gold
Adalbert de Moui won a Check of 250.000 gold
Bumaderangy won a Check of 250.000 gold

Round Three:
Willem The Third went all the way and claimed his box, which contained 100.000 gold

Bonus Winner: Round Three
Nirot won a Check of 250.000 gold
Lilli won a Check of 250.000 gold
Scarface won a Check of 250.000 gold

On Saturday Captain Seoman summoned four “Lobsterman” to fight with at New Magincia docks.

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All new elected governors attended the Kings audience on Sunday

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A lot of interesting ideas were discussed at the meeting.

Do not forget the champion spawn hunt on Monday!

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(Player Event) The Acropolis Live Auction Hall Week 4 (Returning From 2013)

March 23, 2014 By: Flair Category: Atlantic News

Greetings!  The grand re-opening of my live auction hall will take place Wednesday March 26th at 8 Pm Eastern Time, Items will be accepted anytime until the auction begins. The auction will be on the roof of my in town luna home on the Atlantic shard, located at the southern crossroads. (pictured below) If you’d like to submit an item please ICQ me at 678566021

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In addition to the normal auction items, we will have a lottery vendor set up, the lottery’s grand prize for this week is the Ethereal Horse in the picture above, there will also be many millions in cash prizes.

These are the items submitted to the auction so far (list will be updated as items are submitted)

#1 Ruined Painting
#2 Nexus Deed
#3 Carved Image Of Medusa Floor
#4 “Multicolor” Gift Box
#5 Mark Of Travesty (Swords/Tactics)
#6 Death Certificate x2 (Glass Face Cyno / Rude Patch Bonnie)
#7 Bestial Armor Set
#8 Angel Gift Box (Blue)
#9 Angel Gift Box (Light Green
#10 Angel Gift Box (Dark Green)
#11 Angel Gift Box (Black)
#12 Statues of Gwenno, Katrina and Dawn
#13 Big Majik Flippers (Sandals)
#14 Arcane Leather Leggings Of Defence
#15 Fortified Leather Sleeves Of Wizardry
#16 Easter Basket (Not The New One)
#17 Box Of Rubble ( Cattail, Chair, Single Red Mushroom, Seaweed, Double Red Mushroom, Grave Dust)
#18 Full Rubble Bed Facing East (4 Pieces)
#19 Full Rubble Bed Facing South (4 Pieces)
#20 Tangle Cloth (1,000)
#21 Seahorse Statue
#22 Ghost Anchor
#23 White Dragon Head
#24 A Guildstone, Guild Name Is NED [None]
#25 Breastplate Of The Berserker (Dyed Vibrant Crimson)
#26 Futon
#27 Halloween Ghoul Statue and Bloody Sash (Turns You Into A Werewolf)
#28 Age Of Shadows Roses ( Stacey Keibler + Grim Necromancer Steve)
#29 Potted Tree and Flowerpot
#30 Decorative Wall Shield Hanging and Stone Ankh (Veteran Rewards)
#31 Full Darkwood Armor Set
#32 A Guild Deed + A Guildstone, Lacivious Lions [L.L]
#33 A Magical Lockbox
#34 Angel Gift Box (Brown)
#35 Mesanna Lake Austin Lantern
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Toad Town Auction – Week 20 (March 23, 2014 – Sunday @ 5PM Eastern Standard Time)

March 23, 2014 By: Flair Category: Atlantic News

I Welcome everyone to attend Toad Town’s Auction house this Sunday at 5PM Eastern Standard Time. The Auction house is located on the Atlantic Shard outside the Luna north gate, then go east from there.

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Lottery

At every auction there will be a lottery for the public to play and bet their odds. The Lottery Item will be displayed on the table west of the Lottery Vendor. Announcing the winning lottery number will always be at the end of every auction and will be chosen by a random number generator. To participate in the lottery, simply purchase a lottery ticket off of the lottery vendor. There will be only 40 lottery tickets available for purchase so first come first serve. The lottery vendor will be stocked thirty minutes prior to the auction. If you have the winning lottery ticket, you must hand it to me so i can verify the code. If the winning number is called and you have it but do not speak up, we will move on to the next number so be alert when it comes time for the lottery drawing.

Mega-Money Lottery

This is a game that lasts the amount of one (1) month. To participate, just simply win the lottery throughout the month!!

When the lottery is claimed at the end of every Auction, I will do the following

1) Request a number between 1-100

2) Request a Security Code

I will put the winners name, chosen number, & code in a book and then place the book inside the AOS orange backpack, east of the lottery vendor.

At the end of every month, I will do a mega drawing regarding the ones who won the lottery throughout the month. (There should be 3-4 people)

I will use a lucky dealer to determine the winning number (1-100)

(There Is only 1 Winner)

PRIZE:

Your Predicted Number is near the dealers number = 25M

Your Predicted Number is SPOT ON with the Dealers Number = 50M

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Audric The Drunk (Mini Game Available Throughout The Auction) (STORY)

O’ there once was a man from old days of or’
Whom had nothing on his heart than goodness and pure

His name Was Audric, a lonesome fellow indeed
Dreamed of the luxury life and plenty of mead

As a boy, he and his family grew up very poor
Until the age of twelve, when Audric heard a knock on the door

“Good Day sir,” said a quirky old fellow
Not knowing what to do, I stumbled a “Hello”

“Where are your parents lad, I must speak with them now!”
“but.. ummmm…”
“Come on boy, I am King Casca after all, so don’t give me that brow”

Realizing who the man was, Audric angrily showed him the door… slamming it into Casca’s face
“You fool of a child, come with me, you shall be my servant….
“for no one will want you… you’re a humanly disgrace”

Many a day, Audric cried himself asleep, wanting the comfort feeling of his mothers hands.
Then Suddenly he thought and summoned up a plan to escape.. for he was the smartest in the land

When Casca lay drunk and asleep;
Audric stole everything – all the gold he could reap

He traveled, far and wide, waiting for his time to claim victory.
Many years later, word got around that Casca was overthrown – put out of his misery!

“Finally!” exclaimed Audric. Rejoicing In the news, he settled down in a strange village: Toad Town
Audric Couldn’t help saying to himself “Hey Casca, how does it feel that someone else is wearing your crown”

Known for his trickery and riches – he pledged to share with those he redeems
For, after all, Audric is now living his Dreams.

(For more information on this mini-game, please read the book shown below in the picture, at the Auction House)

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How To Make A Submission

Please use the purple bag (displayed in the picture below) as an example of what a submission should look like. Please get a book and a bag (there is a vendor in the bag with return runes, books, and bags) and put the item(s) in one single bag and then list the item and its starting price within the book.

NOTE (1): If you fail to list a start price for your item, I will try my best to contact you and get that resolved. If I cannot get in contact with you I will not auction off the item.

NOTE (2): If I am not around when your submission is completed, you can drop off your submission via my mailbox on the front steps. Everytime i come to my house, I check the mailbox and bulletin board.

NOTE (3): Once the auction is over, I will then distribute the winning gold to all who had submitted items. Please note that I am still in school during the week and that I may be difficult to get into contact with but I will try my best to contact all who have submitted items. It is advised to stay after the auction to recieve your payout so we can avoid complications during the week.

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Auction List

At every auction there will be a auction list that will be opened to the public. Normally, I have a item limit in my auction to about 45 items. I keep this limit because I don’t want this to be a three or four hour auction. On occasion, the total items surpass that amount because at least one of the following:

1) Holiday – in the holiday mood I like to go over the limit to give everyone the equal fairness of submitting items and also so everyone could get that holiday special. Also, depending on the holiday, there will be mini gift bags laying around that will be released throughout the auction.

2) Item Submitting via mailbox – Sometimes the mailbox will have so many submits that it can pass the limit fairly fast. Although it may pass the item limit, I encourage as many to submit this way because I am not always on at the same time as others are.

NOTE: Only submit items to me and no one else. I am the only one that actually runs and operates the auction itself. Thats not to say I don’t have friends help me because I do, but I am the only one with access to the item submits and gold. If you are worried that it is not me, you can ask me to step behind the counter via the telepad. I am the only one with access to get behind the counter.

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Rules & Need-to-Knows For The Toad Town Auction

Please be sure to read the rules regarding the auction. With the cooperation from every individual, we can produce a better environment for everyone to enjoy. Even though I am fun and games most of the time, I do take these rules seriously. Since I am the only one running the auction, I am doing around 5 or more things at once WHILE trying to not mess up someone’s submitted item.

Depending on the player and what they did, the punishment varies:

Temporary Ban – banned for that particular auction. This serves as a warning. If you do the same thing again it can result in permanent ban.

Permanent Ban – pretty self explanatory but basically you won’t be allowed to participate in the Toad Town Auction or any event associated with the Toad Toad Town Auction House

NOTE: It is very hard to get a permanent banning but it is possible. I don’t like to ban anyone because I want everyone to enjoy the game without drama but I will ban if it is needed. FYI: I keep a documented record of people who were banned and why, people needing banned and why, and people with warnings and why.

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Here Is What Will Be Auctioned Off:

1) CLEAN Greater Artifact Ring – Intel 10, MI 5, MR 3, Luck -100, SDI 15, LMC 8, LRC 20
2) Splinter Weapon Package
3) 15% Splinter Gargish Disc Mace
4) Reforged Gargish Armor Package
5) Reforged Katana Package
6) Reforged Katana Package
7) Crafted Slayer Bow Package
8) 2-Piece Rubble Picnic Bench (Facing South)
9) New Year’s Eve Noisemaker, Great Lakes 2010
10) Sparkle
11) Pure White Bolts of Cloth (x2)
12) Deed for a Tree Stump
13) Ethy Set – Polar Bear & Cu Sidhe
14) Commodity Deed Box
15) Snowglobe Package
16) High End Misc Items Package
17) Mini House deeds (x4)
18) Deviously T-Maps (x75)
19) CLEAN Lesser Artifact Chaos Shield – Soul Charge 20%, Reactive Paralyze, SR 3, Luck -100, DCI 15, SSI 10, Physical 1
20) CLEAN Major Magic Heavy Crossbow – HML 50%, Hit Fatigue 50%, HLD 50%
21) Baja’s Christmas Pajama’s 2010
22) Burnt Xmas Apron (Chesapeake 2010)
23) Rubble Sandstone Corner Piece
24) Event Spellbooks (x3)
25) Rare Item Package
26) EM Crafted Scribes Pen ‘crafted by The Amateur Poet’s Society’
27) ‘You Were Naughty This Year!’ bag with Coal and Coal Ingot
28) Guildstone – ‘Order of the Phoenix [PHX]’
29) Grey Rubble Seaweed
30) White Lava
31) Powerful Fireworks Staff (Red Version)
32) Powerful Fireworks Staff (Yellow Version)
33) Infused Alchemist Gem
34) A Small Piece of Blackrock (Vase)
35) 10th Year Anniversary Sculpture
36) Naughty Switches
37) Mesanna’s Halloween
38) Sorcerer’s Suit Pieces (Non Rep – x10)
39) EM Crafted Robe – 1/7 ‘crafted by Weaving the Northern Lights’
40) Reforged Bow Package (x20)
41) Reforged Bow Package (x9)
42) Artifact Package
43) Imbued Shame Items Package
44) Artifact Package
45) Artifact Weapon Package
46) Mask/Obsidian Package
47) Obsidian Statue (x2)
48) Imbued Shame Jewels
49) Holiday Item Package
50) Deed for 1 Pieces of Colored Leather
51) Rubble Package
52) Max Mod Invasion Spellbook
53) Old School Hairdyes (x18)
54) Misc. Spellbooks
55) Shroud of the Condemned (x10)
56) Bleue and Rouge Jewel Set
57) Obsidian Statues Package (x18)
58) Holiday Toy Guard from EM Drosselmeyer and EM Dramnar’s Toy Chest, Chesapeake 2013 (x4)
59) Skill Tutor Doll
60) Virtue Tile Set
61) Mini House Deed Package (x5)
62) Stretched Hide Stuck in a Box
63) ‘Unused’ Tile
64) Whispering Rose Package
65) Age of Shadows Rose Package
66) Rock Paver Package

*LOTTERY* – Leurocian’s Mempo of Fortune


(SUBMITS ARE CLOSED)

Better Description of the Items Below:

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Perilous Inquirer – 38th Issue

March 21, 2014 By: DeadBob Stratics Category: Siege Perilous News

The Perilous Inquirer
Vol 1, 38th Issue
March 21, 2014

MOTHER LODE BOOT HILL
– by Governor Kattasrophe, Ace Reporter
“This is based on the famous Boot Hill in Tombstone, Arizona,” Norman Bates says as he points to a grave stone with the name, ‘Lester Moore’ on it. “I am the caretaker here. My name is Norman Bates. All of the residents are well cared for. Their plots get moved every week. I put fresh flowers on the grave if the relatives pay for it. I was reading about the real one and thought it would be nice if we had one of our own.”
I asked the question, “Do all Siege players have a grave?”
Norman Bates grinned, “We have a few spots open….”
The Mother Lode Boot Hill is located in Umbra, across the West Bridge.

UO IS NOT A GAME
UO is not a game, it is an interactive world.
– Richard Garriott
A game is where you explore exotic places, meet strange creatures, kill them, gather marvelous treasures, weapons & armor and max out your skills along the way. Then, if you wish, you can do all that all over again. Like UO, games have crafting, pets and guilds to help you stay the course.
UO has no course, no path to completion. You log in here and you begin to build an online life. You create your own home that in some way helps to express who you are. Your name appears on items you craft and so your name becomes a part of the interactive world.
One doesn’t play UO, one lives it.

MORGAN IRONFIST NEWS
– by Governor Kattasrophe, Ace Reporter
I was stealthing along in Shame towards the spawn ever so slowly…. I am not much of a fan of that place… but then, something caught my eye. It was the Governor of New Magincia, Morgan Ironfist! I was silent as a mouse, not making a peep, for he already had the Boss up and was killing it. I silently gasped at what he did next. He yelled at the top of his lungs, “WHAAHAAA! NO ONE WILL EVER KNOW!”
Oh, but surely that was a lie. I was there! I blinked rapidly and thought for a moment, as all the gold began to spawn. I began to wonder. Curiosity struck and I didn’t know what to do. Was he hiding the city treasury in Shame? *Gasp!*
This could be terrible. I watched a bit longer, too terrified to say anything. Within a moment, I took myself to Britain and said not a word.
[Note: To see proof of Morgan being in Shame, look on Stratics.]

ARCHITECT SERVICE
I wish to offer my knowledge in custom house design to anyone that wants help FREE OF CHARGE. You tell me what you’re looking for and I will build it on Test shard, then hand it over to you on the Test shard so YOU can COPY the design to Siege.
I will also help with deco’ing FOR FREE. But, you will have to buy the deco items… NOT necessarily from my shop.
– Ilexia

TRIVIA MONK
To receive a prize, be the first to go to the Trivia Monk on our steps & answer this question:
“Where is Ilexia’s shop?”

The Perilous Inquirer
Vol. 1, 38th Issue
3rd house on left out the Luna south gate.
News & Booze! Free current issues are on the “News” steward. Free named liquors are on the “Booze” steward. Back copies are free on the shop named, “Siege Droppings.” Submission guidelines are posted on the bulletin board.
Ace Reporter: Governor Kattasrophe
Deliveries: Doug The Fugitive

~sine die~

To join the discussion, goto:
http://uo2.stratics.com/community/threads/the-perilous-inquirer-38th-issue.313493/

Vendor Search Issues

March 21, 2014 By: petra Category: General News

GamePosted by Bonnie Armstrong | 2014 Mar 21 14:48 -0400 GMT

Greetings Everyone,

We are aware of the time out issues with Vendor Search and we working to resolve the issue.  We should have Vendor Search up and running no later than 10 am EDT tomorrow morning.  Thank you for your patience with us.

We appreciate any feedback you may have with this system, please email [email protected].

Thank you,
UO Team

Transcript of the Catskills Meeting with Mesanna and Kryonix

March 20, 2014 By: Flair Category: Community News

[19:04:04] [Crystal] Mesanna says: ok lets begin
[19:04:22] [Crystal] Mesanna says: Pandora welcome
[19:04:26] [Kyronix]: Good Evening Pandora
[19:04:32] [Pandora]: Hello my Dark one.
[19:04:42] [Mesanna]: Good evening
[19:05:06] [Pandora]: Well, my first feedback for you guys is that this system was a great idea….
[19:05:33] [Pandora]: I know Mes really wanted it to shine from her video at the 15th anniversary
[19:05:43] [Pandora]: But I think for some times now
[19:06:02] [Pandora]: you’ve been trying to mesh certain communities that do not traditionally mesh well
[19:06:23] [Pandora]: I felt this system was predominately created for RP’ers
[19:06:48] [Pandora]: but in adding the city buffs, it seemed to want to include the pvp’ers
[19:06:59] [Pandora]: and traditionally those two communities just do not get along
[19:07:07] [Pandora]: its the whole reason Trammel exists in the first place
[19:07:26] [Pandora]: I feel the governor system should be expanded to include Felucca
[19:07:34] [Pandora]: Let them have their own governor system
[19:07:42] [Pandora]: and let them have the city buffs
[19:07:53] [Pandora]: The two communities are just too basically different
[19:08:18] [Pandora]: We want to beautify the city, we want to have events that are based in the history of the cities
[19:08:28] [Pandora]: we want to expand the collections
[19:08:39] [Pandora]: like the zoo and the museum and the library
[19:08:44] [Pandora]: and none of those efforts
[19:08:46] [Pandora]: NONE
[19:09:02] [Pandora]: are taken into consideration by certain groups
[19:09:09] [Pandora]: all they want is their buff
[19:09:15] [Pandora]: because they create their templates
[19:09:16] [Pandora]: for pvp
[19:09:18] [Pandora]: based on them
[19:09:21] [Pandora]: period.
[19:09:37] [Pandora]: they dont care for any efforts that we do (the RP’ers) to bring that element to the city
[19:09:47] [Pandora]: and while all our events are open to all types of players
[19:09:54] [Pandora]: they just dont find that stuff fun
[19:09:57] [Pandora]: they want to go out and pvp
[19:10:03] [Pandora]: that’s their fun
[19:10:07] [Pandora]: so please
[19:10:13] [Pandora]: consider that
[19:10:20] [Pandora]: those two communities are DIFFERENT
[19:10:26] [Pandora]: they have different goals
[19:10:30] [Pandora]: different objectives
[19:10:35] [Pandora]: and i’d love to see Felucca be more
[19:10:43] [Pandora]: than just a place that we have exiled reds to
[19:10:49] [Pandora]: it should be FAR more than that
[19:10:56] [Pandora]: maybe I would enjoy pvp again
[19:11:00] [Pandora]: if there was more to it
[19:11:11] [Pandora]: but i urge to trhink about
[19:11:17] [Pandora]: giving felucca its own governor system
[19:11:28] [Pandora]: and letting trammel be more of the rp-focused governor system
[19:11:36] [Pandora]: will that stop griefers?
[19:11:45] [Pandora]: prob not… if someone REALLY wants to grief you
[19:11:47] [Pandora]: they will
[19:11:56] [Pandora]: but at least this separation will
[19:12:02] [Pandora]: not PROMOTE such things
[19:12:06] [Pandora]: the voting
[19:12:16] [Pandora]: should be 1 vote per account on ONE SHARD
[19:12:25] [Pandora]: the shard you have your house on
[19:12:33] [Pandora]: that’s your main shard
[19:12:40] [Pandora]: and if you play multiple shards
[19:12:43] [Pandora]: great
[19:12:57] [Pandora]: but to have it open up to x y z shards all over
[19:13:02] [Pandora]: just wasnt a good idea
[19:13:06] [Pandora]: it was far better before
[19:13:11] [Pandora]: when all my characters could vote
[19:13:15] [Pandora]: i feel the change was
[19:13:23] [Pandora]: too impulsive
[19:13:28] [Pandora]: because it actually promotes
[19:13:33] [Pandora]: people cross-shard voting
[19:13:40] [Pandora]: like we’re basically forced to do that
[19:13:44] [Pandora]: and what about ppl like me?
[19:13:52] [Pandora]: i have only ever played catskills
[19:13:55] [Pandora]: my whole UO life
[19:13:59] [Pandora]: I dont play other shard
[19:14:02] [Pandora]: therefore
[19:14:03] [Pandora]: guess what
[19:14:12] [Pandora]: I am not as popular as others that do
[19:14:25] [Pandora]: so its become a total popularity contest
[19:14:35] [Pandora]: its not about what you can do for your city
[19:14:39] [Pandora]: its about how many people you know
[19:14:40] [Pandora]: :(
[19:14:46] [Mesanna]: its politics
[19:15:05] [Pandora]: And that’s right… it is…
[19:15:18] [Pandora]: and if I paid $15/mo to be an US Citizen to vote
[19:15:30] [Pandora]: then that would be equivalent
[19:15:32] [Pandora]: but this is a game
[19:15:36] [Pandora]: that we all subscribe to
[19:15:40] [Pandora]: and pay for
[19:15:48] [Pandora]: we dont want to pay money to be griefed or
[19:15:52] [Pandora]: have it be unfair
[19:15:57] [Pandora]: or even percieved as unfair
[19:16:01] [Pandora]: again
[19:16:09] [Mesanna]: Ok Pandora how were you griefed
[19:16:09] [Pandora]: i think felucca should be looked at more
[19:16:31] [Pandora]: Well what I percieved as griefed is the personal attacks on my character
[19:16:37] [Pandora]: on my moral standing
[19:16:59] [Pandora]: being called names or being told that my only job is to PAY for a city buff
[19:17:07] [Pandora]: I see that as griefed
[19:17:19] [Pandora]: griefing is anything that makes you feel a certain way
[19:17:25] [Pandora]: it causes grief
[19:17:30] [Pandora]: i felt nothing I did
[19:17:36] [Pandora]: was worth anything
[19:17:48] [Pandora]: it was just about paying $2 mil a week for a buff
[19:17:54] [Pandora]: expected to pay that out of my own pocket
[19:18:15] [Pandora]: it was just my first term, i didnt know what it was going to be like…
[19:18:30] [Pandora]: hell for ever my friend was governor of another city and we didnt even know
[19:18:34] [Pandora]: a guideline
[19:18:44] [Pandora]: on what the EM’s could or could not provide
[19:18:50] [Pandora]: it was SOOOOOO drastically different
[19:18:56] [Pandora]: from one shard to the other
[19:19:05] [Mesanna]: ok
[19:19:14] [Pandora]: For the longest we didnt know what the system was really about
[19:19:15] [Mesanna]: lets stick to the topic on hand here please
[19:19:19] [Pandora]: k
[19:19:49] [Mesanna]: so to sum up your issues
[19:19:59] [Mesanna]: you want Fel incorportated
[19:20:14] [Pandora]: I do… with its own system, with the city buffs moved there
[19:20:35] [Mesanna]: well I was going to wait till the end but I will say this now
[19:20:57] [Mesanna]: fel is not even under Blackthorns ruling so thats going to be hard under the new PVP system …
[19:21:02] [Mesanna]: that will be in place in the future
[19:21:25] [Mesanna]: we want it out of towns not putting things back into the towns
[19:21:51] [Mesanna]: one vote per account per shard?
[19:22:17] [Mesanna]: Is that right?
[19:22:22] [Mesanna]: sorry taking notes
[19:22:32] [Pandora]: more like lock an account once a vote is cast to that shard
[19:23:00] [Pandora]: or if it is as Kyronix mentioned before tied to the housing database
[19:23:08] [Pandora]: maybe that might be something to explore too
[19:23:16] [Pandora]: vote on the shard where your house is
[19:23:18] [Mesanna]: Different systems
[19:23:21] [Pandora]: ok
[19:23:49] [Pandora]: kyro mentioned something about it would have to be similar to that database (something to that
[19:23:53] [Pandora]: effect).
[19:24:01] [Pandora]: because housing is locked to 1 shard
[19:24:16] [Pandora]: not that they are same systems but that its similar in tha tsense
[19:24:27] [Mesanna]: Pandora please finish up
[19:24:31] [Pandora]: k
[19:24:36] [Mesanna]: no thats not going to work
[19:24:37] [Pandora]: Okay.
[19:24:47] [Crystal] Kyronix says: *nods*
[19:25:03] [Pandora]: Okay
[19:25:03] [Crystal] Pandora says: Okay
[19:25:35] [Crystal] Kyronix says: Thank you for your feedback
[19:25:52] [Mesanna]: Thanks sorry finishing the notes
[19:26:11] [Mesanna]: hi Timothy
[19:26:14] [Crystal] Timothy Taterson says: Greetings
[19:26:14] [Crystal] Kyronix says: Welcome Timothy
[19:26:22] [Mesanna]: lets keep this to a few minutes ok
[19:26:28] [Crystal] Timothy Taterson says: Governor Smoot has sent me on his behalf
[19:26:29] [Mesanna]: so everyone gets a chance to talk
[19:26:37] [Mesanna]: I saw him outside
[19:26:46] [Crystal] Timothy Taterson says: he welcomes everyone to the city of Britain, and extends
[19:27:01] [Crystal] Timothy Taterson says: the office of Britain to the Dark Lady
[19:27:14] [Crystal] Timothy Taterson says: you are at his disposal
[19:27:27] [Crystal] Timothy Taterson says: I will keep this brief
[19:27:34] [Timothy Taterson]: (OOC)
[19:27:45] [Timothy Taterson]: The system is popular with RPers
[19:28:02] [Timothy Taterson]: and to alot of RPers 2mil a week is alot
[19:28:11] [Timothy Taterson]: i see no reason for a gold charge for a city buff
[19:28:36] [Timothy Taterson]: smaller shards would make use of it more if it were no charge
[19:28:44] [Timothy Taterson]: in regards to voting
[19:28:55] [Timothy Taterson]: 1 voter per account or otherwise
[19:29:23] [Timothy Taterson]: please keep things simple. there are always people who will prepare, see what it takes to have an
[19:29:31] [Timothy Taterson]: advantage in any system
[19:30:00] [Timothy Taterson]: please keep in mind that any change, if there is any advatage, people will find it
[19:30:15] [Timothy Taterson]: just please keep the system open to all
[19:30:37] [Timothy Taterson]: and not just those with 20 -50 accounts who take advatage of any given voting changes
[19:30:48] [Timothy Taterson]: To conclude
[19:30:59] [Timothy Taterson]: Politics in a video game…
[19:31:12] [Timothy Taterson]: is sure to make many unhappy
[19:31:25] [Timothy Taterson]: its can be a brutal combo
[19:31:46] [Timothy Taterson]: i would expect those running for governor to accept this
[19:31:54] [Timothy Taterson]: a bit moreso than normal gameplay
[19:32:15] [Timothy Taterson]: Governor Smoot did everything in his power to run a clean campaign
[19:32:35] [Timothy Taterson]: And Commends all the Governors that try to do the same
[19:32:39] [Timothy Taterson]: that is all
[19:32:46] [Kyronix]: Thank you Timothy
[19:32:48] [Mesanna]: thank you
[19:32:51] [Crystal] Timothy Taterson says: *nods*
[19:32:56] [Mesanna]: Kyronix
[19:33:10] [Kyronix]: Yes?
[19:33:22] [Mesanna]: You want to say something before we pull more
[19:33:35] [Kyronix]: Ya sure, let me talk about the trade deal real quick
[19:33:45] [Kyronix]: To keep it short, because I know a lot of people want to have a chance to speak
[19:34:06] [Kyronix]: You have to examine the cost based on the reality of the economy as it is
[19:34:20] [Kyronix]: Is 2 mil a lot for one person? Some yes, some no – however it was never intended for one perso
[19:34:30] [Kyronix]: To carry that burden, and we’ve seen that has become the case in many instances
[19:34:44] [Kyronix]: So instead of just dropping the cost, what we’d rather do is provide more tools
[19:34:53] [Kyronix]: For Governors and their citizens to take advantage of so they can fund their cities
[19:35:00] [Kyronix]: and the treasuries in novel and exciting ways
[19:35:27] [Kyronix]: That’s about the jist of it
[19:35:28] [Mesanna]: thanks
[19:35:29] [Crystal] Kyronix says: *grins*
[19:35:37] [Mesanna]: nice and short I love it
[19:35:39] [Mesanna]: next
[19:35:49] [Kyronix]: Hello Jon
[19:35:51] [Jon Marcus]: Good evening Messana and Kyronix.Thank for for holding this meeting.
[19:35:54] [Mesanna]: hi Jon
[19:36:02] [Jon Marcus]: Mine will also be short
[19:36:08] [Crystal] Mesanna says: *smiles*
[19:36:21] [Jon Marcus]: I would like to make a request that you change the “one accout–one vote+ rule
[19:36:46] [Mesanna]: do you mean make it so?
[19:36:51] [Jon Marcus]: I vote in Skara,but I also have another character that is very fond of Jhelom
[19:37:02] [Jon Marcus]: I had to make a decision on which city to vote in
[19:37:06] [Jon Marcus]: But…
[19:37:14] [Mesanna]: oh I see what you mean
[19:37:38] [Jon Marcus]: In allowing this,I would suggest that one account would be allowed to vote in the same city more t
[19:37:41] [Jon Marcus]: than pnce
[19:37:53] [Jon Marcus]: than once
[19:38:07] [Jon Marcus]: Thank you
[19:38:11] [Kyronix]: Thank you Jon
[19:38:17] [Mesanna]: your welcome thank you for coming
[19:38:28] [Jon Marcus]: thanks
[19:38:30] [Mesanna]: dbl click the bell
[19:38:46] [Mesanna]: Hi Bardo
[19:38:49] [Bardo]: Hi mesana
[19:38:54] [Kyronix]: Hello Bardo
[19:38:57] [Mesanna]: No one can spell my name!
[19:39:03] [Bardo]: I would like to say jsut 2 things please
[19:39:07] [Bardo]: o srry
[19:39:09] [Mesanna]: ok
[19:39:21] [Bardo]: First I agree with Jon
[19:39:39] [Bardo]: we could make its so one account could vote in 2 cities
[19:39:48] [Bardo]: that would be fair I think
[19:39:52] [Bardo]: and ..
[19:40:09] [Bardo]: I dont know what pandoras box said all of anyway
[19:40:18] [Bardo]: but not allowing pvprs to
[19:40:33] [Bardo]: get buffs.. I dont agree. some of us have pvpr
[19:40:42] [Bardo]: and play the rp side .,
[19:40:48] [Bardo]: so I dont find that fair
[19:40:54] [Bardo]: taht is all thank you
[19:40:58] [Mesanna]: Thank you
[19:41:00] [Kyronix]: Thank you Bardo
[19:41:22] [Aron Unrequited]: Thank you for your time
[19:41:23] [Kyronix]: Hello Aron
[19:41:29] [Mesanna]: hi Aron
[19:41:39] [Aron Unrequited]: I have one request, and one general comment
[19:42:03] [Aron Unrequited]: The request first, as it doesn’t need an answer as such
[19:42:25] [Aron Unrequited]: But the councils I attend tend to be well behaved, and you can see similar here tonight
[19:42:31] [Aron Unrequited]: Why, we even queue decently!
[19:43:07] [Aron Unrequited]: The fear of the Dark Lady perhaps; hence as a connected request, it would be nice to see that at wider events
[19:43:39] [Aron Unrequited]: Greater powers to squelch etc, I’m not sure, but the things that work for the Council have made roleplay in particular so much stronger
[19:44:03] [Aron Unrequited]: But, my question about it directly;
[19:44:30] [Aron Unrequited]: I play Europa, there’s a question on Stratics about running for a Governer spot that’s still open
[19:44:37] [Mesanna]: ok how is this related to the issue we are here tonight?
[19:44:47] [Aron Unrequited]: Could there be some clarification on how players can do that?
[19:45:19] [Mesanna]: is there is an opening
[19:45:28] [Aron Unrequited]: On Jhelom yes
[19:45:42] [Mesanna]: email me and I will discuss Europa with you
[19:45:51] [Mesanna]: this is not the place tonight
[19:45:55] [Aron Unrequited]: I ask because it will be open on many shards
[19:46:11] [Mesanna]: this is about an issue on Cats
[19:46:20] [Mesanna]: not an open forums for any issue
[19:46:21] [Mesanna]: sorry
[19:46:25] [Aron Unrequited]: Oh? I thought it was for Governors in general, I’m sorry
[19:46:30] [Mesanna]: no its not
[19:46:31] [Aron Unrequited]: Then I shall bell myself out
[19:46:36] [Aron Unrequited]: Thank you again
[19:46:37] [Mesanna]: no problem email me
[19:46:42] [Kyronix]: Thank You
[19:46:57] [Aornis of GL]: Good evening, Mesanna, Kyronix. Thank you for holding this open forum.
[19:47:01] [Mesanna]: Hi Aornix
[19:47:02] [Kyronix]: Hello!
[19:47:05] [Aornis of GL]: I am Aornis, also Alice, of Great Lakes, the current governor of Vesper.
[19:47:13] [Aornis of GL]: I came here tonight to discuss what happened during last week’s election on Great Lakes.
[19:47:25] [Aornis of GL]: Specifically, I want to discuss the Britain election.
[19:47:33] [Aornis of GL]: The current, and previous, governor of Brit was griefed, and I feel that the actions of
[19:47:43] [Aornis of GL]: the individual who did so should have ramifications.
[19:47:52] [Mesanna]: Stop guys
[19:47:56] [Mesanna]: I am sorry
[19:48:02] [Mesanna]: one second
[19:48:10] [Mesanna]: This meeting is about Catskills
[19:48:22] [Mesanna]: They are having an issue
[19:48:23] [Aornis of GL]: I apologize. From what I read of FLutter’s message on stratics
[19:48:34] [Aornis of GL]: it was for all greifing issues during elections
[19:48:38] [Mesanna]: and asked for a meeting with us to discuss it
[19:48:56] [Mesanna]: we will be more than happy to come to your shards and speak to you guys
[19:48:57] [Aornis of GL]: May we request a GL meeting as well?
[19:49:04] [Mesanna]: yes be happy to
[19:49:06] [Aornis of GL]: Please.
[19:49:08] [Aornis of GL]: Thank you!
[19:49:11] [Mesanna]: we will set it up
[19:49:14] [Mesanna]: but know this
[19:49:19] [Aornis of GL]: Wonderful, thank you so much.
[19:49:44] [Mesanna]: as I answered in email this
[19:49:51] [Mesanna]: we do not have unique names
[19:50:05] [Mesanna]: if a player is harrassing you then the bouncer behind me
[19:50:10] [Mesanna]: will take care of it
[19:50:15] [Mesanna]: he is very good at his job
[19:50:18] [Brutrin]: Indeed
[19:50:20] [Aornis of GL]: I have a point about the names, but I will share it on our GL meetings
[19:50:25] [Mesanna]: ok
[19:50:25] [Aornis of GL]: and he does look intimidating : )
[19:50:28] [Mesanna]: lol
[19:50:31] [Mesanna]: pretty huh
[19:50:37] [Aornis of GL]: Hehe, yes
[19:50:41] [Mesanna]: I am not trying to be rude here
[19:50:45] [Mesanna]: I am sorry Aornis
[19:50:49] [Mesanna]: we will set up a meeting
[19:50:53] [Aornis of GL]: Thank you for your time. And again, I apologize for the confusioin about the topics.
[19:51:19] [Mesanna]: oh I have two now
[19:51:23] [Mesanna]: nice
[19:51:24] [Aornis of GL]: hehe
[19:51:31] [Aornis of GL]: Thank you both
[19:51:33] [Mesanna]: thank you
[19:51:33] [Kyronix]: Thank you
[19:51:35] [Aornis of GL]: have a great evening.
[19:51:37] [Mesanna]: we will set up a date
[19:51:39] [Aornis of GL]: See you on GL, Mesanna.
[19:51:43] [Mesanna]: ok
[19:51:50] [Mesanna]: hi General
[19:51:56] [Kyronix]: Greetings!
[19:52:32] [General chaos]: sorry
[19:52:34] [General chaos]: lost con
[19:52:49] [General chaos]: sorry for the hold up
[19:52:57] [Mesanna]: no worries
[19:53:01] [General chaos]: im gona keep it short and to the point
[19:53:01] [Kyronix]: If you get removed from teh castle just head on back
[19:53:11] [Kyronix]: Not sure if you were out long enough to get auto removed
[19:53:14] [Crystal] Kyronix says: *smiles*
[19:53:27] [General chaos]: ok anyway
[19:53:45] [General chaos]: i was on the night during the last day to vote
[19:53:59] [General chaos]: and there was alot bashing
[19:54:05] [General chaos]: typical for general chat
[19:54:20] [General chaos]: i cant quote anyone to much extent
[19:54:25] [General chaos]: but i do remeber
[19:54:37] [General chaos]: that someone not giving any names
[19:54:45] [General chaos]: made a character
[19:54:51] [General chaos]: skankilicous
[19:55:04] [General chaos]: and called pandora a skank
[19:55:12] [General chaos]: and i did confront them
[19:55:27] [General chaos]: and they just ignored me and then it exploded in general chat
[19:55:28] [Mesanna]: thats what the harrassment feature is for
[19:55:42] [General chaos]: yes but that feature doesnt work
[19:55:55] [Mesanna]: ?
[19:55:58] [General chaos]: mutiple people have used it
[19:56:02] [General chaos]: and nothing happend
[19:56:03] [Mesanna]: Is it broke?
[19:56:05] [General chaos]: happens
[19:56:09] [General chaos]: not broke
[19:56:13] [General chaos]: no gms heere
[19:56:15] [General chaos]: here
[19:56:21] [Mesanna]: Psst
[19:56:23] [General chaos]: i have been back
[19:56:24] [Mesanna]: two right here
[19:56:30] [General chaos]: for 3 months
[19:56:38] [General chaos]: and u guys are the first ones to see
[19:56:40] [Mesanna]: and you won’t see a GM for that type of call
[19:57:06] [General chaos]: i understand people trash talk
[19:57:08] [General chaos]: its a game
[19:57:27] [General chaos]: but breaking peoples morals and stuff like ive seen
[19:57:34] [Mesanna]: General I am trying to get to the bottom of the issue here
[19:57:37] [General chaos]: uncalled for
[19:57:42] [Mesanna]: agreed
[19:57:46] [General chaos]: aye
[19:57:51] [Mesanna]: we are supposed to be adults
[19:57:58] [Mesanna]: or most of us are =)
[19:58:02] [General chaos]: i know
[19:58:27] [General chaos]: thats all i gotta say
[19:58:31] [Mesanna]: thank you
[19:58:36] [Kyronix]: Thank You
[19:58:37] [General chaos]: thank you guys
[19:59:03] [Mesanna]: dbl click the bell
[19:59:13] [Mesanna]: hi Parnoc
[19:59:22] [Parnoc]: Good Evening
[19:59:25] [Kyronix]: Hello!
[19:59:34] [Parnoc]: i just have a comment that i think may help
[19:59:55] [Parnoc]: I feel that this was done to make the cities more visited
[20:00:02] [Parnoc]: but it has done the opposite
[20:00:07] [Parnoc]: i feel that is
[20:00:08] [Parnoc]: if
[20:00:18] [Parnoc]: the buff were decided by each citizen
[20:01:52] [Parnoc]: it would not make the person switch his city that he has been loyal to for
[20:01:56] [Parnoc]: perhaps a long time
[20:02:15] [Parnoc]: and would make much more popular the city buff and loyalty for each city
[20:02:39] [Parnoc]: that’s it, thank you very much
[20:02:49] [Mesanna]: thank you
[20:02:53] [Kyronix]: Thank You
[20:03:00] [Mesanna]: hi Lucent
[20:03:03] [Lucent Dreher]: Hello
[20:03:06] [Kyronix]: Hello Lucent
[20:03:10] [Lucent Dreher]: I’d like to keep this short
[20:03:14] [Lucent Dreher]: as many are waiting
[20:03:23] [Lucent Dreher]: so excuse abruptness
[20:03:35] [Crystal] Mesanna says: *nods*
[20:03:49] [Lucent Dreher]: I feel that most people do not agree that the city system is for rpers and that it is useful to
[20:03:52] [Lucent Dreher]: all
[20:04:25] [Lucent Dreher]: I also would like to know exactly what the problem on catskills was
[20:04:33] [Mesanna]: me too
[20:04:40] [Mesanna]: I have heard many things
[20:04:41] [Lucent Dreher]: The election might have been a bit heated but it couldn’t be the worst
[20:04:46] [Mesanna]: but I hoped to hear it first hand
[20:04:54] [Mesanna]: but I haven’t
[20:05:11] [Lucent Dreher]: Sorry that’s about it
[20:05:17] [Lucent Dreher]: cya
[20:05:18] [Mesanna]: thank you
[20:05:28] [Mesanna]: hi Velvathos
[20:05:36] [Mesanna]: stop
[20:05:41] [Velvathos]: Greetings!
[20:05:44] [Kyronix]: Sorry!
[20:05:46] [Kyronix]: Wrong button
[20:06:00] [Velvathos]: Interestin’ look ye have there Mesanna, been bathing in charcoal again?
[20:06:15] [Velvathos]: Anyways!
[20:06:38] [Velvathos]: Onto the discussion! I believe voting
[20:06:40] [Mesanna]: you better be glad my slay button stalled out =P
[20:07:05] [Velvathos]: I believe that voting should be done once per shard somehow, like someone else suggested
[20:07:14] [Velvathos]: Tied to your house or something along the lines
[20:07:30] [Velvathos]: But I feel you should be able to use all your characters to vote to vote in multiple cities
[20:07:37] [Velvathos]: But only on one shard
[20:08:25] [Velvathos]: I believe that’s all for now then..
[20:08:30] [Velvathos]: I will send you an e-mail..
[20:08:32] [Mesanna]: thank you
[20:08:36] [Mesanna]: ok
[20:08:49] [Mesanna]: hi Brigantia
[20:09:05] [Brigantia]: Could we please have some way of earning lockdowns for our events? A tool with limited time set?
[20:09:19] [Brigantia]: Something that is not subject to the whims of EM’s?
[20:09:28] [Brigantia]: Spread out to all the cities?
[20:09:57] [Mesanna]: For what purpose?
[20:10:02] [Brigantia]: Events
[20:10:07] [Brigantia]: to combat griefers
[20:10:16] [Brigantia]: so they dont run off with all our decor
[[20:10:22] [Brigantia]: and ruin our events
[20:10:25] [Mesanna]: you mean like the market
[20:10:33] [Mesanna]: or a crafting center
[20:10:34] [Mesanna]: etc
[20:10:36] [Brigantia]: no like the Hoopla
[20:10:45] [Brigantia]: only Governors can do it
[20:11:01] [Mesanna]: ok so Kyronix and the team have talked about this
[20:11:07] [Brigantia]: something not subject to the whim of EMs
[20:11:09] [Mesanna]: and we talked to the EM’s
[20:11:37] [Brigantia]: something we can earn
[20:12:14] [Brigantia]: so its not just given out to 3 cites of 9 for example
[20:12:28] [Mesanna]: we are going to build a library of the areas
[20:12:40] [Mesanna]: that the governs can place for a limited time
[20:12:47] [Mesanna]: in specific areas
[20:12:57] [Mesanna]: but giving you the options to lock down items
[20:13:17] [Brigantia]: that will help greatly
[20:13:36] [Mesanna]: I think that will help you guys alot
[20:13:40] [Mesanna]: do the events you want to do
[20:13:47] [Mesanna]: and you can place them yourselfs
[20:13:56] [Mesanna]: and place the styles of set ups you want
[20:14:21] [Mesanna]: but thats in the future
[20:14:27] [Brigantia]: it will help with greifers and percieved favoritism
[20:14:40] [Brigantia]: i may consider running again if that is in place
[20:14:43] [Brigantia]: thank you
[20:14:50] [Mesanna]: your welcome
[20:14:52] [Mesanna]: thanks you
[20:14:55] [Mesanna]: thank you
[20:15:05] [Mesanna]: Poo Poo
[20:15:09] [Mesanna]: Hi
[20:15:13] [Kyronix]: Hello
[20:15:18] [Poo Poo Undies]: Hello
[20:15:23] [Crystal] Poo Poo Undies says: Are there any plans on the table to expand the role of the governorship…
[20:15:31] [Crystal] Poo Poo Undies says: or to provide a purpose to encourage players to interact with their town governor?
[20:15:40] [Crystal] Poo Poo Undies says: aside from the town buff.
[20:15:46] [Kyronix]: I think people are already doing that
[20:15:50] [Kyronix]: On a number of shards
[20:16:03] [Kyronix]: It’s about what you make it – we left i open ended for a reason
[20:16:06] [Poo Poo Undies]: Outside of roleplay?
[20:16:38] [Kyronix]: The main purpose is to provide a medium for interacting with events throughout the realm
[20:16:47] [Kyronix]: And bringing community leaders together and supporting them
[20:17:01] [Poo Poo Undies]: Ok. That is all I have to ask
[20:17:07] [Poo Poo Undies]: Thank you
[20:17:17] [Kyronix]: providing tools to accomplish that would be along the lines of something beyond the buff
[20:17:23] [Kyronix]: Thank you
[20:18:27] [Mesanna]: hi Aurelius
[20:18:29] [Aurelius]: Thank you for the chance to speak on Governor issues, i’ll try be brief…
[20:18:56] [Aurelius]: First I agree with most of what Pandora gave as reasons againt sht one vote per account, but ald
[20:19:23] [Aurelius]: I play characters, not accounts – by all means limit the account vote to one shard,
[20:19:42] [Aurelius]: but adding another gap between the player and the characters is not a good idea…
[20:20:04] [Aurelius]: It also led to an issue where someone appeared to stand on multiple – as in about 20 – shards
[20:20:23] [Aurelius]: As they were the only opponent to most governors they challenged, people were
[20:20:46] [Aurelius]: obliged to vote for that governor – only for the ‘pretender’ to withdraw a ady into the elections
[20:21:02] [Aurelius]: so effectively thos people lost any opportunity for a meaningful vote
[20:21:07] [Aurelius]: on their home shard.
[20:21:29] [Aurelius]: As for Felucca, and buffs … we do need something for the Fel people …
[20:21:44] [Aurelius]: As it stands, the Trammel only option is causing more divisiveness between the
[20:21:57] [Aurelius]: two groups of players, hwich surely can’t be the intention…
[20:22:07] [Aurelius]: A different, but parralel, system would be welcome.
[20:22:28] [Aurelius]: Regarding voting being ‘politics’ … yes, it is, in part
[20:22:45] [Aurelius]: but when it’s made cross shard polularity, it’s not in-game, shard specific, politics,..
[20:22:52] [Aurelius]: and again, surely that is not what is intended?
[20:23:18] [Aurelius]: The other thigns I had planned to say, seem inappropriate as I had
[20:23:34] [Aurelius]: uinderstood from theforums this was a general ‘Governor’s issues’ duiscussion …
[20:23:51] [Aurelius]: Perhaps we can arrange such a general, not shard specific, conversation in some way?
[20:23:57] [Aurelius]: And that’s about it ….
[20:24:03] [Mesanna]: thank you
[20:24:09] [Aurelius]: Thank you for your time
[20:24:12] [Kyronix]: Thank you!
[20:24:27] [Mesanna]: Hi Jirel
[20:24:35] [Jirel of Joiry]: Hello mesanna plz forgive my slow typing and abbr. I hava broken arm and only one hand 4 typing
[20:24:45] [Mesanna]: Oh I am sorry
[20:24:52] [Kyronix]: Hello! And feel better :(
[20:24:59] [Jirel of Joiry]: I wish to ask 4 a legends meeting
[20:25:06] [Mesanna]: ok
[20:25:11] [Mesanna]: we will do one for all shards
[20:25:16] [Jirel of Joiry]: ty kyronix
[20:25:17] [Mesanna]: think its a good idea
[20:25:37] [Jirel of Joiry]: ty we have had elections probs too
[20:26:09] [Jirel of Joiry]: ty 4 both of your time
[20:26:15] [Mesanna]: thank you
[20:26:16] [Kyronix]: Thank you
[20:26:27] [Jirel of Joiry]: sorry again 4 crummy typing
[20:26:32] [Kyronix]: No problem
[20:26:33] [Mesanna]: no worries
[20:26:39] [Mesanna]: dbl click the bell
[20:26:41] [Mesanna]: feel better
[20:26:48] [Jirel of Joiry]: ty mesanna
[20:26:59] [Mesanna]: hi Va’lis
[20:27:01] [Kyronix]: Hello Va’lis
[20:27:06] [Va’lis Razele]: Good evening.
[20:27:10] [Va’lis Razele]: Where to start where to start…
[20:27:27] [Va’lis Razele]: Well first…if you arent doing anything after this Mesanna…I know a lovely tavern in Nu’jelm
[20:27:39] [Va’lis Razele]: But that is besides the point
[20:27:40] [Mesanna]: asking me for a date?
[20:27:47] [Va’lis Razele]: Are you saying yes?
[20:27:59] [Mesanna]: we will talk later *winks*
[20:28:06] [Va’lis Razele]: Oh lovely.
[20:28:16] [Va’lis Razele]: Now, down to business
[20:28:27] [Va’lis Razele]: I have a few points I would like to bring up.
[20:28:38] [Va’lis Razele]: First… The griefing issues.
[20:28:53] [Va’lis Razele]: I was there for much of the final day of elections.
[20:29:16] [Va’lis Razele]: And to say it was heated well..
[20:29:35] [Va’lis Razele]: Name calling is one thing.
[20:29:46] [Va’lis Razele]: Some things were taken past that.
[20:29:50] [Va’lis Razele]: Such as this
[20:30:05] [Va’lis Razele]: One of many dropped throughout the towns
[20:30:34] [Va’lis Razele]: But.
[20:30:45] [Va’lis Razele]: People seemed very upset
[20:30:53] [Va’lis Razele]: About people using multiple accounts
[20:30:56] [Va’lis Razele]: That they pay for
[20:30:59] [Mesanna]: look at general chat please
[20:31:01] [Va’lis Razele]: To vote how they wished.
[20:31:37] [Mesanna]: Va’lis I am aware of all this and more actually
[20:31:40] [Mesanna]: but thank you
[20:31:43] [Va’lis Razele]: Ah lovely.
[20:31:50] [Va’lis Razele]: Second thing then.
[20:31:54] [Mesanna]: I did come informed
[20:32:00] [Va’lis Razele]: I am glad.
[20:32:17] [Va’lis Razele]: But…My next thing
[20:32:23] [Va’lis Razele]: Was on the topic of voting?
[20:32:44] [Va’lis Razele]: In RL, voting is restricted to those of age
[20:33:23] [Va’lis Razele]: Even gifts are restricted to those of age.
[20:33:29] [Va’lis Razele]: Why is voting not as well?
[20:33:36] [Va’lis Razele]: Just a thought.
[20:33:51] [Va’lis Razele]: And one final thing.
[20:34:02] [Mesanna]: Are you talking 30 days old?
[20:34:08] [Va’lis Razele]: 30,60,a year
[20:34:09] [Mesanna]: do you really think that would help?
[20:34:10] [Va’lis Razele]: Something
[20:34:14] [Va’lis Razele]: I think it would help
[20:34:15] [Va’lis Razele]: Yes
[20:34:23] [Va’lis Razele]: Now..I know..
[20:34:32] [Va’lis Razele]: That some would treat is they do with the gift xsharding
[20:34:39] [Va’lis Razele]: But it would help a bit.
[20:34:59] [Va’lis Razele]: I saw a few trial accounts opened
[20:35:04] [Va’lis Razele]: The young status dropped
[20:35:09] [Va’lis Razele]: Ingots donated
[20:35:12] [Va’lis Razele]: And they voted
[20:35:12] [Kyronix]: You can’t vote with a trial account
[20:35:23] [Va’lis Razele]: If they purchase the 1 month game time
[20:35:23] [Mesanna]: Brutrin you there?
[20:35:24] [Va’lis Razele]: They can.
[20:35:28] [Va’lis Razele]: I have in the past done it.
[20:35:35] [Va’lis Razele]: I admit it, I have.
[20:35:42] [Va’lis Razele]: Not for the most recent election
[20:35:45] [Va’lis Razele]: But in the past.
[20:35:55] [Kyronix]: At that point they have paid for their time just as anyone has
[20:35:55] [Mesanna]: Please divorce that person please
[20:36:11] [Va’lis Razele]: Then why are gifts not allowed instantly as well?
[20:36:21] [Va’lis Razele]: Merely my thoughts on the matter in regard to voting.
[20:36:30] [Kyronix]: We appreciate the feedback
[20:36:32] [Mesanna]: tell him to just change the name please
[20:36:34] [Va’lis Razele]: Last thing
[20:36:46] [Va’lis Razele]: The whole buff issue
[20:37:11] [Va’lis Razele]: I am one that agrees , that maybe the buffs should not be tied to the governorship
[20:37:21] [Va’lis Razele]: But maybe to the guild system
[20:37:27] [Va’lis Razele]: With a guild treasury
[20:37:56] [Va’lis Razele]: After all
[20:38:04] [Va’lis Razele]: Some players have their own towns
[20:38:13] [Va’lis Razele]: Or other things
[20:38:15] [Mesanna]: thank you Va’lis that they do
[20:38:25] [Va’lis Razele]: I think that is all I have.
[20:38:33] [Mesanna]: thank you
[20:38:34] [Va’lis Razele]: And Mesanna, I will be waiting for your answer.
[20:38:37] [Crystal] Va’lis Razele says: *winks*
[20:38:40] [Crystal] Mesanna says: *grins*
[20:38:47] [Gareth]: Man handle me
[20:38:49] [Mesanna]: Hi Gareth
[20:38:52] [Kyronix]: Hello Gareth
[20:38:52] [Gareth]: ‘Ello
[20:38:56] [Gareth]: I have some suggestions to deal with “Outer Shard Voter Fraud”
[20:39:05] [Gareth]: and this is coming from an owner of 26 Active UO Accounts
[20:39:11] [Gareth]: A way to deal with Outer Shard Voter Fraud during elections is to have each vote drain
[20:39:13] [Gareth]: your Characters Loyalty to say negative -10,000. This way the player would have to put
[20:39:20] [Gareth]: in the effort to build their rating back up to vote in every election. You could also cap
[20:39:29] [Gareth]: the amount of Ingots, Wood Etc. you can donate to gain Loyalty. This would also put a
[20:39:36] [Gareth]: wrench in the scripters machine so they can no longer mine unlimited sources of Loyalty.
[20:39:43] [Gareth]: This would not negatively impact players who regularly play on the shard or those who
[20:39:50] [Gareth]: play on Multiple shards because if they truly play the shard
[20:39:53] [Gareth]: building their Loyalty Rating back up should be no problem.
[20:39:56] [Crystal] Gareth says: *Takes a breath*
[20:40:05] [Gareth]: And last, I’d like to call for a Producers election and wish to submit my candidacy
[20:40:08] [Mesanna]: macro that did ya?
[20:40:14] [Gareth]: Ctrl C V
[20:40:16] [Gareth]: :-)
[20:40:23] [Kyronix]: Heh
[20:40:38] [Gareth]: One day… *Shakes fist* One day
[20:40:55] [Mesanna]: have a nice day
[20:41:04] [Gareth]: I will
[20:41:11] [Gareth]: you too Krynoix
[20:41:17] [Crystal] Gareth says: *Evil eyes*
[20:41:30] [Kyronix]: Have a good one, enjoy!
[20:41:31] [Gareth]: You may man handle me out of here now
[20:41:40] [Mesanna]: you can do that yourself
[20:41:43] [Mesanna]: dbl click the bell
[20:41:53] [Mesanna]: hi Wildstar
[20:41:55] [WildStar of Baja]: Hello
[20:41:57] [Kyronix]: Hello WildStar
[20:42:06] [WildStar of Baja]: First
[20:42:24] [WildStar of Baja]: I think voting is already resisted to one vote per shard per vote
[20:42:40] [WildStar of Baja]: I think Pandora meant one vote per account
[20:42:57] [WildStar of Baja]: Second
[20:43:18] [WildStar of Baja]: Role-players and PvPers don’t have to be at each others throats
[20:43:32] [WildStar of Baja]: On baja, several PvP guild were providing the funds for the deals
[20:43:45] [WildStar of Baja]: so the two groups can work together
[20:44:12] [WildStar of Baja]: that was all I had to say
[20:44:20] [Kyronix]: Thank You
[20:44:20] [Mesanna]: thank you
[20:44:32] [Mesanna]: Hi Aedon
[20:44:36] [Kyronix]: Hello Aedon
[20:44:47] [Aedon Durreah]: Evening Mesanna and things who scare me
[20:44:54] [Stethun]: Roar and such.
[20:44:56] [Mesanna]: lol
[20:45:07] [Mesanna]: my pretties
[20:45:16] [Crystal] Mesanna says: *snickers*
[20:45:16] [Aedon Durreah]: First off, I have not seen any true devide in the community I am a part of,
[20:45:36] [Aedon Durreah]: I have dealings with those who sit in taverns and those why wild wildly through the old lands
[20:45:55] [Aedon Durreah]: This election showed that coming together
[20:46:04] [Aedon Durreah]: We had candidates from all walks
[20:46:17] [Aedon Durreah]: Was there some mud slinging, most likely
[20:46:38] [Aedon Durreah]: I myself dropped leaflets telling voters how untrustworthy I am
[20:46:44] [Aedon Durreah]: And yet, I did win
[20:46:52] [Mesanna]: lol
[20:47:00] [Mesanna]: I am sorry
[20:47:00] [Kyronix]: I guess that’s one way to do it
[20:47:03] [Aedon Durreah]: I have also had folks from all walks call me names
[20:47:04] [Mesanna]: I shouldn’t laugh
[20:47:12] [Aedon Durreah]: indeed
[20:47:30] [Aedon Durreah]: And i could make a long list of insults and hurt feelings, but to what end?
[20:47:40] [Aedon Durreah]: Elections are dirty work
[20:47:53] [Aedon Durreah]: And not for those easily hurt or insulted
[20:48:19] [Aedon Durreah]: I have a lot of respect for what we are building in these lands
[20:48:28] [Mesanna]: You have made some very good points
[20:48:39] [Kyronix]: Indeed
[20:48:47] [Aedon Durreah]: And hope that no actions will be taken to disrupt the unity of the community at large
[20:49:01] [Mesanna]: thank you
[20:49:04] [Aedon Durreah]: Thank you for your time and not killing me
[20:49:09] [Kyronix]: Thank you Aedon
[20:49:10] [Mesanna]: I would not kill you
[20:49:16] [Mesanna]: I just enjoy killing Gareth
[20:49:23] [Crystal] Kyronix says: *snickers*
[20:49:23] [Mesanna]: Hi Flutter
[20:49:29] [Kyronix]: Hello Flutter
[20:49:31] [Flutter]: Hello Lady
[20:49:37] [Flutter]: And Hello Ladys minions
[20:49:44] [Flutter]: Im sorry this is taking so long
[20:49:50] [Flutter]: Id like to address a fact
[20:49:55] [Flutter]: with the audience
[20:50:07] [Flutter]: Mesanna has my permission though she doesnt need it im sure
[20:50:13] [Flutter]: to go through all of my accounts
[20:50:21] [Flutter]: and hunt down meanly named characters
[20:50:28] [Flutter]: that may hurt someones feelings
[20:50:48] [Flutter]: The Dark Lady has had my credit card information for months
[20:50:56] [Flutter]: certainly she is free to look at my accounts
[20:51:06] [Crystal] Mesanna says: *LAUGHS*
[20:51:13] [Crystal] Kyronix says: *chuckles*
[20:51:22] [Mesanna]: trusting soul
[20:51:24] [Flutter]: I have no “issues” and dont know why anyone would unless they are sensitive
[20:51:36] [Flutter]: I do understand some people are
[20:51:51] [Flutter]: And I do know that certian folk have blamed me for their “issues”
[20:52:03] [Flutter]: I assure you I have not encouraged anyone to be ugly
[20:52:11] [Flutter]: Aint nobody got time fo dat
[20:52:19] [Flutter]: But My Lady I beg of you
[20:52:28] [Flutter]: Dont limit our voting to once per shard period
[20:52:33] [Flutter]: I do play multiple shards
[20:52:44] [Flutter]: I do enjoy the company of many people herre and abroad
[20:52:59] [Flutter]: I do not believe there to be one person elected to Catskills
[20:53:04] [Flutter]: that does not role play in some way
[20:53:16] [Flutter]: be it insufficient for those with “issues” i cannot help that
[20:53:22] [Flutter]: some of us enjoy all apsects of the game
[20:53:36] [Flutter]: But to say that we are not a tignly knit community is wrong
[20:53:51] [Flutter]: Even I and the lovely Devin Ashley have mended fences
[20:53:54] [Flutter]: and if that is possible
[20:53:57] [Flutter]: all else is as well
[20:54:03] [Flutter]: But limiting votes
[20:54:07] [Flutter]: to once per account
[20:54:14] [Flutter]: only hurts the poor fellow with only one account
[20:54:17] [Flutter]: who wants to run
[20:54:32] [Flutter]: versus the grroup that has what has been called “70+”
[20:54:42] [Flutter]: its a lock in win for that person
[20:54:46] [Flutter]: and everyone
[20:54:51] [Flutter]: even the one with one account only
[20:54:54] [Flutter]: should have a chance
[20:54:56] [Flutter]: if they wish
[20:55:03] [Flutter]: Thank you so much for taking the time
[20:55:06] [Flutter]: to listen to everyone
[20:55:15] [Mesanna]: No problem
[20:55:22] [Kyronix]: Thank You Flutter
[20:55:22] [Flutter]: And I aologise if there was a misunderstanding as to what the conversation is supposed to be abou
[20:55:31] [Mesanna]: thank you
[20:55:33] [Flutter]: I hope whoever had the issue does come forward
[20:55:47] [Mesanna]: hi Thom
[20:55:52] [Kyronix]: Hello Thom
[20:55:54] [Thom]: Evening.
[20:56:26] [Thom]: I’m not sure what the specific complain was about this last election
[20:56:35] [Thom]: but i was around for most of the week of elections
[20:56:52] [Thom]: And I was watching the Britain election a good bit
[20:57:23] [Thom]: I’m sure there was more to it then what I saw
[20:57:44] [Thom]: but from what I saw people that were not running were causing the issues.
[20:57:48] [Thom]: Personally
[20:58:05] [Thom]: I feel that if you run for governor you open yourself up to a certain amount of comments
[20:58:16] [Thom]: And grief from other people
[20:58:29] [Thom]: And if you can not handle that in an appropriate manner
[20:58:48] [Thom]: then perhaps you can best benefit your chosen city in a way that doesn’t involve running for office.
[20:59:04] [Thom]: It doesn’t require the governor office to run events or better the cities, and people can work with
[20:59:08] [Thom]: the elected people to get things done.
[20:59:25] [Thom]: There isn’t a person elected on Catskills that i’m aware of that wouldn’t work with someone in their city
[20:59:38] [Thom]: To get things done
[21:00:22] [Thom]: The other thing
[21:00:31] [Thom]: That I wanted to say was about the trade deals
[21:02:02] [Thom]: I am looking forward to the things that you have mentioned tonight as coming to the system to help
[21:02:20] [Thom]: and feel that the deals benefit everyone equally whether they rp, pvp or strictly pvm
[21:02:47] [Thom]: The governor system does a good job of getting people involved in rp that wouldn’t normally
[21:02:55] [Thom]: participate in it. And that’s a good thing
[21:03:33] [Mesanna]: Thank you Thom
[21:03:39] [Thom]: Thank you.
[21:03:41] [Kyronix]: Thank you!
[21:03:45] [Thom]: For taking the time to listen to us.
[21:04:04] [Mesanna]: hi Shenzin
[21:04:11] [Shenzin]: Hello Mesanna and Kyronix, and thank you for this visit.
[21:04:16] [Kyronix]: Hello!
[21:04:35] [Shenzin]: I stand before you to speak to the voting
[21:04:57] [Shenzin]: I observed both the Vesper and Brit voting
[21:05:13] [Shenzin]: and the Vesper vote was ell handles
[21:05:18] [Shenzin]: handled
[21:05:23] [Shenzin]: but
[21:05:35] [Shenzin]: dear friends of Catskills
[21:05:50] [Shenzin]: I was ashamed of ghe Brit voting
[21:06:15] [Shenzin]: to watch newbie players come for who knows where
[21:06:37] [Shenzin]: and recieve ingots from a packy to gain voting rights?
[21:06:45] [Shenzin]: is dead wrong
[21:07:09] [Shenzin]: I hope I never witness this shamfulness again here
[21:07:27] [Shenzin]: I trust you wil addreess this
[21:07:38] [Shenzin]: thank you
[21:07:42] [Kyronix]: Thank You
[21:07:51] [Mesanna]: thank you
[21:07:59] [Mesanna]: hi Tobias
[21:08:04] [Tobias Cardont]: Hello.
[21:08:08] [Tobias Cardont]: And thank you.
[21:08:09] [Kyronix]: Hello
[21:08:19] [Tobias Cardont]: Just two sort of quick things
[21:08:42] [Tobias Cardont]: First, as a role-player, I’d like to think that role-playing is something that incorporates all kinds of playstyles.
[21:08:45] [Tobias Cardont]: PVP, PVM, etc.
[21:09:04] [Tobias Cardont]: I don’t think separate but equal is ever a good idea, and hope that approach isn’t adopted.
[21:09:21] [Tobias Cardont]: Second, I was watching the election here very closely.
[21:09:29] [Tobias Cardont]: Including in and out of game communications with both sides.
[21:09:40] [Tobias Cardont]: Both sides attacked credibility. Both sides recruited cross-shard voting.
[21:09:49] [Tobias Cardont]: They more or less used the same tactics.
[21:10:00] [Tobias Cardont]: And I don’t thin kthere’s anything wrong with that.
[21:10:11] [Tobias Cardont]: People should be free to use their accounts to vote how they wish.
[21:10:15] [Tobias Cardont]: We all pay money for them.
[21:10:34] [Tobias Cardont]: Lastly, when something is a big public spectacle.
[21:10:41] [Tobias Cardont]: A lot of people are going to come out of the woodwork.
[21:10:54] [Tobias Cardont]: I don’t think it’s fair to blame either side for everything that someone decided to say.
[21:11:09] [Tobias Cardont]: Some people enjoy griefing some people might have had an unrelated axe to grind with one of the candidates.
[21:11:25] [Tobias Cardont]: In general, I don’t really even understand the need for this meeting because I’ve seen worse elections in UO.
[21:11:32] [Tobias Cardont]: but I do appreciate you taking the time to organize this meeting.
[21:11:46] [Tobias Cardont]: And hope that it helps in the future.
[21:11:50] [Tobias Cardont]: Thanl you and that’s all.
[21:11:56] [Tobias Cardont]: Thank you even.
[21:12:05] [Mesanna]: Thank you
[21:12:29] [Tobias Cardont]: How do I escape?!
[21:12:30] [Mesanna]: Tobias dbl click the bell
[21:12:34] [Kyronix]: The Bell!
[21:12:35] [Tobias Cardont]: Thanks!
[21:12:40] [Mesanna]: hi Jac
[21:12:47] [Jac Singleton]: My Lady, My Lord, good Beasts…Good evening.
[21:12:52] [Kyronix]: Hello!
[21:12:58] [Jac Singleton]: i would like to tell you that this is going to be very brief,
[21:13:03] [Mesanna]: silent type =)
[21:13:06] [Jac Singleton]: so short in fact that you may not even realize that i have stopped speaking by the time this is
[21:13:16] [Jac Singleton]: but i wanted to be sure that you were well aware that i am a man of few words, and that I will
[21:13:22] [Jac Singleton]: keep my thoughts incredibly short…
[21:13:35] [Jac Singleton]: because i believe that if i keep my speech short, it will be better understood in a very quick mann
[21:13:39] [Jac Singleton]: er
[21:13:45] [Jac Singleton]: and to be concise, i want to remind you that i’ll be quick about this…
[21:13:53] [Jac Singleton]: thank you for this brief meeting…
[21:14:00] [Jac Singleton]: That being said…
[21:14:13] [Jac Singleton]: I wish to remind everyone that behaviors speak louder than words…
[21:14:21] [Jac Singleton]: and this in the end is purely entertainment.
[21:14:26] [Jac Singleton]: Thank you.
[21:14:31] [Mesanna]: thank you
[21:14:32] [Kyronix]: Thank You
[21:14:42] [Mesanna]: Hi I
[21:14:43] [I SUCK UP]: Hello
[21:14:44] [Kyronix]: Hello
[21:14:47] [I SUCK UP]: First Time Speaker, Long Time ULTIMA player
[21:14:53] [I SUCK UP]: I have just one question in 7 parts.
[21:14:54] [Mesanna]: welcome
[21:15:04] [I SUCK UP]: I’d just like to start off with saying; What a great job you have done in sept hold’s on Atlantic.
[21:15:12] [Mesanna]: thanks
[21:15:15] [I SUCK UP]: 1. Will there ever be a stop to one person being Governor on (X) number of shards
[21:15:22] [I SUCK UP]: Sorry 1min phone.
[21:15:32] [Mesanna]: excuse me
[21:15:43] [Mesanna]: we just got put on hold I think
[21:15:46] [Mesanna]: hrm
[21:15:56] [Crystal] Mesanna says: *looks at watch*
[21:16:25] [I SUCK UP]: sorry
[21:16:32] [Mesanna]: lol
[21:16:34] [I SUCK UP]: I have more inportant things
[21:16:42] [Mesanna]: ok
[21:16:48] [Mesanna]: hi James
[21:17:07] [James]: Hello! *Smiles cheerfully*
[21:17:40] [James]: Well, I don’t consider myself much of a citizen of any of the cities…I live in the Freehold.
[21:17:58] [James]: I did become a member of Yew though, so I could vote to make Aedon king.
[21:18:39] [James]: I was originally thinking of being part of Britain though, but none of the candidates I heard of
[21:18:49] [James]: Wanted to burn down the city.
[21:19:27] [James]: Which brings me to why I was standing in line, as I found out as I got near the front
[21:19:32] [James]: was to talk about voting.
[21:20:09] [James]: I never cared much for it, or took it too seriously..
[21:20:14] [Crystal] Kyronix says: *nom*
[21:20:40] [James]: I’m more in favor of having a king, duely chosen, by seeing which of possible royals
[21:21:19] [James]: would probibly complain the most if they didn’t get their way
[21:21:26] [James]: then you put them in charge so they’d stop it.
[21:21:46] [James]: That’s about all I have to say about voting.
[21:22:04] [James]: By the way, aren’t you the lady who made all those pies?
[21:22:16] [Mesanna]: Nope not me
[21:22:19] [Mesanna]: never
[21:22:20] [Kyronix]: Mesanna’s pie making skills are known throughout the realm
[21:22:25] [Kyronix]: She’s just being modest
[21:22:27] [Crystal] Kyronix says: *nods*
[21:22:40] [Kyronix]: Thank you James
[21:22:48] [Mesanna]: Thank you =)
[21:22:55] [James]: I like those pies, much better for throwing then most of the other ones.
[21:23:17] [Crystal] Mesanna says: *grins*
[21:23:42] [Mesanna]: dbl click the bell to escape
[21:23:51] [James]: Alright then
[21:23:57] [Mesanna]: thank you
[21:24:02] [Mesanna]: hi Tserim
[21:24:05] [Kyronix]: Hello
[21:24:08] [Tserim Arryth]: My lady!!
[21:24:14] [Tserim Arryth]: I must say, you are looking particularly evil today
[21:24:22] [Mesanna]: Why thank you
[21:24:24] [Tserim Arryth]: I have two comments and of course a humble suggestion
[21:24:32] [Mesanna]: compliments will get you everywhere!
[21:24:39] [Mesanna]: of course
[21:24:43] [Tserim Arryth]: Firstly, I caution against voting requirements rules which have been suggested
[21:24:55] [Tserim Arryth]: One vote per account, acount age, and so forth
[21:25:15] [Tserim Arryth]: There will always be a sense of unfairness in large elections
[21:25:26] [Tserim Arryth]: For there will always be someone with many accounts, or a lot of gold or a lot of friends
[21:25:38] [Tserim Arryth]: What matters, in the end, is that the governor does their job
[21:25:48] [Mesanna]: agreed
[21:25:49] [Tserim Arryth]: As I understand it, King Blackthorn has the authority to remove ineffective governors
[21:26:10] [Mesanna]: that he does
[21:26:17] [Tserim Arryth]: As for mud slinging, so long as all live within the rules of Sosaria, it matters little
[21:26:26] [Tserim Arryth]: I’ve wrestled bears with fouler mouths!
[21:26:32] [Tserim Arryth]: My second comment…
[21:26:51] [Tserim Arryth]: I feel that the governors bear too much of a burden with trade deals
[21:27:09] [Tserim Arryth]: I think that it help to find a way to spread the love of paying for these trade deals
[21:27:15] [Tserim Arryth]: But more importantly:?
[21:27:32] [Tserim Arryth]: Smaller shards with smaller populations, cannot so easily get these deals themselves
[21:27:59] [Tserim Arryth]: For this reason I think it might be better to have different costs for different deals
[21:28:21] [Tserim Arryth]: Or at least some way for smaller towns to access some kind of deal
[21:28:36] [Tserim Arryth]: Maybe the cost could scale to the number of citizens or the number of people that use the deal
[21:28:47] [Tserim Arryth]: Finally, my humble suggestion
[21:29:02] [Tserim Arryth]: There is an up and coming industry in these great lands of Britannia
[21:29:11] [Tserim Arryth]: I feel they are being left out of the city trade deals
[21:29:19] [Tserim Arryth]: I speak, of course, of the Donut Bakers Association.
[21:29:32] [Tserim Arryth]: I feel they have a lot to offer to the great cities of Britannia!
[21:29:37] [Kyronix]: Donuts are tasty
[21:29:43] [Tserim Arryth]: Yes!!
[21:29:58] [Tserim Arryth]: If there is one thing we need in these harrowing times, my lady, it’s more donuts
[21:30:09] [Mesanna]: wewill take that under advisement
[21:30:14] [Tserim Arryth]: I feel that the recent election could have avoided much of its drama with more donuts.
[21:30:22] [Mesanna]: I will see what we can do
[21:30:23] [Tserim Arryth]: In any case, that is all I have to say about that!
[21:30:32] [Kyronix]: Thank You
[21:30:32] [Tserim Arryth]: Toodles!
[21:30:36] [Mesanna]: thank you
[21:30:43] [Mesanna]: Hi Tazar
[21:30:47] [Kyronix]: Hello Tazar
[21:30:47] [Tazar]: Greetings My Lady,
[21:30:56] [Tazar]: I’ll try to keep this short:
[21:31:05] [Tazar]: Thank you for providing the governor’s system.
[21:31:20] [Tazar]: We all know that nothing is perfect, and that no matter how it is designed, someone will figure out ways to take advantage, etc.
[21:31:41] [Tazar]: But as a whole, I’d say the program has been a success.
[21:31:54] [Tazar]: Some have complained about what EM’s and/or you can or won’t do for them.
[21:32:06] [Tazar]: but it really boils down to what the Governor can do.
[21:32:19] [Tazar]: I was governor for 2 terms on Atlantic and had a great time with it.
[21:32:35] [Tazar]: As Governor, I hosted events, and I never really requested anything of the EM’s and never received anything
[21:32:51] [Tazar]: except King’s Guards attacking everyone near my house and killing all my neighbors… *grins*
[21:33:05] [Tazar]: But it was fun all the way through from start to finish.
[21:33:18] [Tazar]: I do however recommend Term Limits be it overall terms allowed, or consecutive terms.
[21:33:35] [Tazar]: This system should not really be dominated by a few but should be shared by all.
[21:33:52] [Tazar]: I, for one, appreciate the time you and your Dev/EM Team have put into this.
[21:34:04] [Tazar]: Like UO itself, you’ve added another level to the sandbox and left the system open for us to play with and take it where we will.
[21:34:23] [Tazar]: You can’t please everyone, but I think you all have done a great job.
[21:34:27] [Kyronix]: Thank You Tazar
[21:34:33] [Tazar]: Thank you.
[21:34:34] [Mesanna]: Thank you Tazar
[21:34:41] [Tazar]: Now…
[21:34:47] [Tazar]: Will you kill Flair for me?
[21:34:51] [Tazar]: <<<<<<<<<<< *grins*
[21:35:11] [Mesanna]: Flair has not said a word all night long =P
[21:35:17] [Kyronix]: Hello
[21:35:17] [Mesanna]: hi Kodoz
[21:35:23] [Kodoz]: Good evening to all four of you
[21:35:35] [Kodoz]: First I’d like to apologize for taking up your night this way, so I will try to be brief.
[21:35:50] [Kodoz]: Second, I’d like to say we all appreciate the fine jobs you do on a consistent basis for us
[21:36:08] [Kodoz]: Third, I’d like to say that I’ve heard and been witness to a lot of things with…
[21:36:20] [Kodoz]: These elections, and that there is one recurring theme that everything falls back to.
[21:36:31] [Kodoz]: What has been done to make them fair has been done, to my knowledge
[21:36:48] [Kodoz]: Short of insane measures that would be profoundly ridiculous to implement
[21:36:54] [Kodoz]: And incredibly time consuming if they were possible
[21:37:01] [Kodoz]: There are few things that could improve it
[21:37:08] [Kodoz]: Changing to veterans only discourages new players or new accounts
[21:37:25] [Kodoz]: And nobody wants that.
[21:37:43] [Kodoz]: However, the recurring problem to me is that there is a profound lack….
[21:37:49] [Kodoz]: Of perspective.
[21:37:57] [Kodoz]: These positions, while In Character
[21:38:05] [Kodoz]: Are not some end all be all to our shard or any other.
[21:38:17] [Kodoz]: They are merely another tool that you have graciously provided us with
[21:38:47] [Kodoz]: And any tool can be used by the wielder for a variety of jobs
[21:38:59] [Kodoz]: I appreciate the freedom that you have given us with this versatile tool
[21:39:15] [Kodoz]: Both as a member of PGoH, a Citizen of Trinsic, and a proud fighter
[21:39:40] [Kodoz]: Finally, the only advice I have for all involved
[21:39:49] [Kodoz]: Is that there is only one person who can choose how these elections
[21:39:53] [Kodoz]: or anyones words
[21:40:00] [Kodoz]: Or anyones actions, short of being in fel and getting PKed
[21:40:04] [Kodoz]: can affect you;
[21:40:07] [Kodoz]: And that person is yourself.
[21:40:14] [Kodoz]: It is your choice to react in a certain way
[21:40:22] [Kodoz]: It is your choice whether to take things personally
[21:40:30] [Kodoz]: And it is your choice to continue on in the face of adversity
[21:40:37] [Kodoz]: Or give up, walk away, and start anew somewhere else.
[21:40:46] [Kodoz]: Nobody owes it to anyone else to coddle them
[21:40:52] [Kodoz]: We are adults, and we should all act like it
[21:41:00] [Kodoz]: Once again, I am profoundly sorry that you have had to take time out
[21:41:02] [Kodoz]: Once again
[21:41:06] [Kodoz]: To deal with Catskills problems
[21:41:18] [Kodoz]: I hope that I will once again see you all, but under far more favorable circumstances.
[21:41:26] [Kodoz]: Thank you for your time, and I apologize for being a bit long.
[21:41:29] [Mesanna]: thank you
[21:41:31] [Kyronix]: Thank You
[21:41:40] [Mesanna]: hi Sugar
[21:41:41] [Kyronix]: Hello
[21:41:48] [Sugar Smacks]: a few things to say so ill get to it
[21:41:52] [Sugar Smacks]: I have had an opportunity to test this system and have had mixed results i would like to share
[21:42:01] [Sugar Smacks]: several of the problems i encountered involved this very shard Catskills
[21:42:18] [Sugar Smacks]: The problem being is the vote is no representation of the shard being voted on
[21:42:38] [Sugar Smacks]: I found in my election the people voted on GL brit and Atl Brit and Catskills brit
[21:42:42] [Kyronix]: From what I understand you attempted to misrepresent yourself as Dot Warner on Great Lakes
[21:43:01] [Sugar Smacks]: i think mesanna can verify there is no dot warner on my acct
[21:43:23] [Sugar Smacks]: i in fact had no knowledge of these events until the time of them and yes im aware of it now
[21:43:31] [Sugar Smacks]: and yes i find it amusing
[21:43:40] [Sugar Smacks]: but please back to the actual problems
[21:43:57] [Sugar Smacks]: you literally have 1 group speaking for ALL shards if they please at this moment
[21:44:14] [Sugar Smacks]: They may say they dont do it or wont do it but the fact is they CAN do it
[21:44:26] [Sugar Smacks]: I voted and everyone i know voted on catskills
[21:44:36] [Sugar Smacks]: none of us play catskils much!
[21:44:43] [Sugar Smacks]: should i be able to vote?
[21:44:51] [Sugar Smacks]: it was the same everywhere
[21:45:07] [Sugar Smacks]: now you might take this as a sign of me caring of losing
[21:45:24] [Sugar Smacks]: but i guess me laughing at that isnt convincing enough
[21:45:34] [Sugar Smacks]: it was a test of something new
[21:45:46] [Sugar Smacks]: and i warn you if this isnt happening it will happen
[21:45:56] [Sugar Smacks]: because i will make it happen when i can achieve enough people
[21:46:18] [Sugar Smacks]: so i warn 1 vote per account period when you take it farther it will not be pleasant
[21:46:33] [Sugar Smacks]: you will not have a community you have a group speaking for all communities
[21:46:39] [Sugar Smacks]: and no diversity
[21:47:05] [Sugar Smacks]: now if you fix it
[21:47:07] [Sugar Smacks]: great
[21:47:09] [Sugar Smacks]: if you dont
[21:47:10] [Sugar Smacks]: LOL
[21:47:12] [Sugar Smacks]: either way
[21:47:14] [Sugar Smacks]: i told you
[21:47:25] [Kyronix]: Thank You
[21:47:30] [Mesanna]: hi Devin
[21:47:33] [Kyronix]: Hello
[21:47:36] [Devin Ashley]: Hello
[21:47:47] [Devin Ashley]: I have one suggestion which a lot will not like
[21:48:01] [Devin Ashley]: While the system was invented for the player to vote , its not working
[21:48:14] [Devin Ashley]: so why not use the RNG
[21:48:30] [Devin Ashley]: everyone who wants to run does, and the RNG picks the winner
[21:48:41] [Devin Ashley]: that way noboday can complain it was unfair
[21:49:02] [Devin Ashley]: That is all and Thank You
[21:49:09] [Mesanna]: thank you
[21:49:18] [Mesanna]: hi Wild
[21:49:33] [Wild]: hi!
[21:49:37] [Mesanna]: Tucker is the last one tonight
[21:49:45] [Mesanna]: hi
[21:49:50] [Kyronix]: Hello
[21:50:01] [Wild]: i bascially want to say that nabin’s idea was reasonable in that a player must put forth some wor
[21:50:08] [Wild]: work
[21:50:13] [Wild]: in order to gain the ability to work
[21:50:28] [Wild]: to have a certain amount of acheivment
[21:50:32] [Wild]: accomplished
[21:50:43] [Wild]: that way at least everyone will have “earned” there right to vote
[21:50:54] [Wild]: no matter whom they vote for, they have earned their right
[21:51:11] [Wild]: also i think the one vote per account thing is on the right track
[21:51:27] [Wild]: because it limits the amount of potential “corruption”
[21:51:46] [Wild]: in the fact that hose with many many accts will not be able to manipulate every elctions
[21:51:51] [Wild]: just a lesser amount
[21:51:55] [Wild]: its not perfect
[21:52:01] [Wild]: but s tep in the right direction
[21:52:14] [Wild]: and i think that with adding accomplishment to voting rights
[21:52:29] [Wild]: will lesson the “misuse” of voting
[21:52:48] [Wild]: that and the guys idea about donuts
[21:52:55] [Mesanna]: lol
[21:52:55] [Wild]: but to include cake in such measures
[21:53:07] [Kyronix]: I’m in favor of more treats
[21:53:08] [Wild]: we will NOT excude cake on catskills
[21:53:11] [Crystal] Kyronix says: *nods*
[21:53:15] [Wild]: exclude*
[21:53:18] [Wild]: thats it
[21:53:21] [Wild]: have a good night
[21:53:28] [Mesanna]: hi Tucker
[21:53:46] [Tucker]: hhi
[21:53:51] [Kyronix]: Hello!
[21:54:06] [Tucker]: I was wondering if it is possible to do term limits
[21:54:16] [Tucker]: based on account
[21:54:40] [Kyronix]: I think that might be too limiting to some of our smaller population shards
[21:55:24] [Tucker]: or a way to make sure that
[21:55:46] [Tucker]: the govenor actually serve the office
[21:55:53] [Callista]: Dium Prostra
[21:55:55] [Callista]: Dium Prostra
[21:56:17] [Kyronix]: We do have checks in place to make sure a Governor is a no show
[21:56:19] [Tucker]: and not just run to get a special title
[21:56:25] [Kyronix]: Governors serve at the pleasure of the King
[21:56:32] [Kyronix]: And the King can remove them from office if the need arises
[21:56:59] [Tucker]: would the people have a chance to remove
[21:57:08] [Tucker]: I mean
[21:57:21] [Kyronix]: If citizens have concerns they are encouraged to bring it to the attention to the King
[21:57:35] [Kyronix]: This way its not just a blind removal process where someone can falsly remove someone
[21:57:52] [Tucker]: ok that’s all thanks
[21:57:56] [Kyronix]: Thank You
[21:58:06] [Tucker]: good night
[21:58:10] [Kyronix]: Thank You Tucker
[21:58:29] [Kyronix]: Whew! Thank you everyone for coming out and providing feedback
[21:58:39] [Kyronix]: I encourage everyone to continue the conversation both within the realm and outside
[21:58:47] [Kyronix]: Send us your thoughts if you have something you wish to give us feedback on
[21:59:07] [Kyronix]: We got a lot of great info tonight and will keep it all in mind as we move forward with changes
[21:59:15] [Kyronix]: And additions to the Governorships
[21:59:17] [Kyronix]: Thanks again!
[21:59:34] [Mesanna]: Hi guys
[21:59:51] [Mesanna]: We came here tonight because there was a request for a meeting
[21:59:59] [Mesanna]: because of a issue you guys were having
[22:00:05] [Mesanna]: due to the elections
[22:00:23] [Mesanna]: I reseached what I could
[22:01:38] [Mesanna]: I read the forums
[22:01:44] [Mesanna]: I read the emails
[22:02:00] [Mesanna]: and I listened to many people before coming here tonight
[22:02:12] [Mesanna]: hoping I could get to the bottom of the real problem
[22:02:19] [Mesanna]: but honestly
[22:02:28] [Mesanna]: I am a bit confused
[22:02:43] [Mesanna]: I see a group of people some RP’ers
[22:02:46] [Mesanna]: some not so much
[22:02:51] [Mesanna]: some maybe just trying
[22:03:01] [Mesanna]: but all are playing the way the want to play
[22:03:10] [Mesanna]: maybe things got out of hand
[22:03:21] [Mesanna]: I was not here so I have to say maybe
[22:03:47] [Mesanna]: I find it hard to believe that a shard as big as Atlantic
[22:04:00] [Mesanna]: with as many different types of people as they have can play together
[22:04:11] [Mesanna]: and enjoy the elections
[22:04:20] [Mesanna]: as much as possible
[22:04:29] [Mesanna]: and we can’t do it here
[22:04:41] [Mesanna]: what I heard tonight was some good suggestions
[22:04:44] [Mesanna]: some good feedback
[22:04:57] [Mesanna]: I head a few personal complaints
[22:05:08] [Mesanna]: that GM’s could and should have been called on
[22:05:42] [Mesanna]: what I did come up with though from this tonight
[22:05:52] [Mesanna]: is I want to start a open forum night
[22:05:57] [Mesanna]: so its not restricted
[22:06:09] [Mesanna]: of course I might have to limit it in time =)
[22:06:18] [Mesanna]: or we will never get thru all the shards
[22:06:47] [Mesanna]: but as Kronix said we do appreciate your feedback
[22:06:57] [Mesanna]: we do take harrassement serious
[22:07:33] [Mesanna]: and I hate getting calls on Sunday about people on Cats being upset and wanting to quit
[22:08:04] [Mesanna]: so if I have missed something we have not discussed
[22:08:17] [Mesanna]: if we did not touch base on something
[22:08:22] [Mesanna]: I am asking you to email me
[22:09:02] [Mesanna]: I know your squelched and can’t talk
[22:09:24] [Mesanna]: thank you all for coming
[22:09:35] [Mesanna]: I will be posting the Meet the Dev times on your shards
[22:09:42] [Kyronix]: Thanks again for coming!
[22:09:59] [Mesanna]: so watch for it
[22:10:02] [Mesanna]: Wild
[22:10:10] [Mesanna]: stay alive =)
[22:10:18] [Kyronix]: G’nite Everyone!
[22:10:24] [Mesanna]: good night Everyone
[22:10:37] [Mesanna]: email me at [email protected]