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|Bulk orders (“BODs”) are a feature for crafters, and are gained by request from human NPC craftspeople of the two crafts that use the system (blacksmiths and tailors).Players with a sufficient skill in blacksmithy will have a chance to recieve bulk order requests from NPC Armorers, Blacksmiths, Iron Workers and Weaponsmiths when they left-click on the NPC, and choose “Bulk Order Info” from the context menu. Likewise, tailoring bulk order deeds can be received from Cobbler, Tailor and Weaver shopkeepers. Originally, the deeds were gained by selling something to the NPC, but that was changed in 2004 (and may still happen on rare occasions).Once you receive a deed, you have to meet one of the following requirements before you are eligible for requesting a new bulk order deed -Bulk Order Caching
When offered, the bulk order is in the form of a deed, grey for blacksmithing and green for tailoring. Double-clicking this deed brings up the details of the order, such as the item name, amount to make, quality of the item requested, and the ore or material type.
To complete a Small bulk order, the player can use the “combine” button on the deed to combine the crafted items with the deed until the amount of items the deed requests has been reached. Once the correct amount of items has been created and combined with the deed, the deed can then be dropped on the NPC for a reward. Items cannot be removed individually from a deed, once they have been combined with it.
Small bulk orders are the primary type of BOD received, with a 92% chance that any BOD request will be a small BOD, if the crafter is 70 skill or higher. If the crafter is less than 70 skill, the requested BODs will ALWAYS be small BODs. At skill below 70, the BOD will request items that will allow the player to gain skill by filling the BOD. Similarly, at skill below 70, the BOD will only request “Normal” items (though exceptional items can also be put into the BOD), of base material (Iron for blacksmiths, Cloth or regular Leather for tailors).
After 70 skill, Blacksmith BODs are 50% likely to require items that are exceptional quality. The base chance is 50% for a weapon BOD, 50% for a BOD type of the armor/helmet/shield group. And, if the latter group, it be at least 50% likely to require that the items be made out of one of the eight special metals gained through Mining (the likelihood of it being iron, of this category, goes down at 110 real skill, and again at 120 real skill, though there will always be a 50% chance of iron weapon BODs). There was originally supposed to be a 10% bonus to the chance of being an Exceptional BOD (so that 60% of BODs would require exceptional items) if the Smith is above 100 skill, but that appears to have been removed (intentionally or accidentally) in 2003, and never restored.
After 70 skill, Tailor BODs are 33.3% likely to require items that are of exceptional quality. 29 of the 55 small BODs for Tailors are Special leather types and exceptional quality items are not requested for tailors in training under 70 tailoring skill. The other 26 small Tailor BODs are for leather products, and have a 30% chance of being regular leather (though items of any leather type will fill this BOD), 42% chance of requiring spined leather, 21% chance of requiring horned leather, and 7% chance of requiring barbed leather.
Large bulk orders (often called LBODs) will be extremely difficult to fill, in that each large bulk order requires filling several small bulk orders of the requested types, and then those completed small BODs, are combined with the Large BOD in the same manner as items are combined with a small. For instance, a large bulk order for blacksmiths may require 20 full sets of armor to be made. The player must obtain several smaller bulk orders, each requiring 20 pieces of the individual piece of armor. These smaller orders for the individual pieces must be completed, and combined into the large bulk order before the large bulk deed can be returned to the NPC for a reward. The smaller orders must be for the same number, and ore type as the original large bulk order, and of the same or better quality than required. Large bulk orders offer higher rewards, and are only offered to blacksmiths and tailors with 70 respective skill or higher.
The items requested by Bulk Order Deeds are limited to a selection of equipment dating from before the Age of Shadows expansion. The quantity requested for a BOD is limited to 10, 15, or 20 (equal chance of each). The ore types for smith BODs are iron, dull copper, shadow, copper, bronze, golden, agapite, verite, and valorite. There are 11 small BODs on the Armor/Helmet/Shield side of the decision tree (out of 24 possible), that have no matching Large BOD, making it much more difficult to get the high-value Blacksmith BOD rewards. These orphan or “famer” BODs (called so because all you are really filling them for is for the fame boost, the usually low-end reward of a small BOD, and to get a chance to request a new BOD after turn-in) are usually considered not worth keeping, unless they give special rewards (like the powder to increase item durability, or the chance for a colored anvil)
As noted before, there are 55 possible small tailor BODs. Each cloth small BOD and each leather armor small BOD will fit into one matching Large BOD. The FOOTWEAR small BODs will fit one of THREE different Large BODS (two of the cloth BOD sets – despite saying cloth, and of the 4 colors of leather footwear BODs will work), or the specific Footwear Large BOD. There are no orphan/”famer” tailor small BODs, though many larges are not worth filling due to low value of the reward.
Considering all possible combinations, there are 1638 different bulk order deeds for blacksmithing, divided as such:
Weapons Smalls: 1 metal (iron) x 2 qualities x 25 weapon items x 3 quantities = 150
For tailoring, there are 972 different bulk order deeds, divided as such:
Clothing Set Smalls: 1 cloth x 2 qualities x 29 cloth items x 3 quantities = 174
* 7 of the Cloth Larges require 3 specific cloth smalls, and one of the leather footwear small BODs. 1 of the Cloth Larges requires 4 specific cloth smalls, and one of the footwear smalls (specifically, sandals). The ninth Cloth Large requires 4 specific cloth small BODs (4 specific hat types).
Normal (non-exceptional) deeds may be filled with exceptional items. Exceptional deeds may be filled with only with exceptional items. One must take care not to confuse the two, or a lot of work can be wasted. Similarly, exceptional small BODs can be combined with a normal large BOD, by accident or deliberately to serve in place of a normal small (and in most cases, the exceptional small would have been a lot more valuable to the crafter, so it should be avoided unless you know the normal large is worth more than the exceptional small or its exceptional large). One can combine a colored deed small with a corresponding regular (Iron or Leather) large, but there are few reasons to ever actually do so.
Bulk Order Bribery
The rewards are threefold. The first reward is gold. Large BODs have a set gold value by type, while small BODs give gold equal to half its vendor’s value (So, if an object is valued at 200 gold outside, then it would yield 100 gold multiplied by the requested amount). All these rewards will be deposited directly into the character’s bank, with a check given for Large BODs whose gold reward is greater than 60,000 gold. If the character’s bank is full, the NPC will refuse to take the BOD.
The second reward is a special item, often not available otherwise in the game, chosen based on the difficulty of the order. This is placed in the character’s backpack.
The third reward is an amount of fame, which is based on the point value of the deed.
The functionality of the items or the color of the items are unique. Some of the rewards are for showing off your skill to other players. Some of the rewards are even more impressive. The top end rewards should be sufficient (aside from the massive amount of fame you can get) as a reward for the huge amount of effort required to fill the order (including a large monetary reward).
The easiest smithing bulk order to complete would be an order for 10 buckler shields of normal quality and made with iron ingots. The reward would be a moderate amount of fame, some gold, and a special item.
The hardest smithing bulk order to complete would be a large bulk order for 20 suits of platemail (all 6 pieces) of exceptional quality made with valorite. The player would need to have a large bulk order deed, as well as six small bulk order deeds, each for the same number, quality, and ore type, and each for a different piece of the full armor set. These six small orders (each for 20 of a particular armor piece, of exceptional quality, and made from valorite ingots) would need to be combined into the deed. The reward would be an enormous amount of fame, a bank check for a large sum of gold, and a magical item.
In order to make storage of the large amount of bulk orders you are bound to end up with easier, Bulk Order Books have been created. The books act as a container that can hold only bulk order deeds, both tailor and smith deeds of all sizes and types.
A bulk order book can hold up to 500 orders. The Book and the first 4 orders in it count as 1 item. For every 5 orders above the initial 4 (and fractions thereof), it will counts as one extra item, so when it’s filled it will count as 101 items.
Since 500 orders can be a bit hard to manage in a big pile, the books also have a filtering option that allows you to only view the deed types you wish to see. The filter has a number of options like size, quality, quantity, material and skill, which makes it very easy to check if a certain deed is in the book.
When placed on a vendor and set to being not for sale, the book will allow the buyers to buy single orders from within the book at a price specified by the owner (the price set individually for each BOD). The filtering options are of course also available to potential buyers.
Bulk orders do NOT have to be priced in a book on a vendor. There are two reasons for this.
First, it is a means of allowing crafters to show off BODs they have for trade, so that other crafters could look at the books, then contact the house owner to try to arrange a mutually beneficial trade.
Second, and more common, is that BODs take up an incredible amount of space in a house, and the Vendor inventories do not count against the house capacity. This allows for a house to be used as something as more than a place to store BODs (in fact, prior to the ruling that Vendor BOD Book storage was in fact legal, there were some guilds that had most of their houses dedicated solely as communal BOD storage). A homeowner can store up to 623 (2 books, with 499 and 124 BODs, respectively) BODs per vendor, and only have to pay 60 gold per vendor, per day, for the BOD storage. The re-affirmation that this type of vendor usage is completely legal can be found at this EA Knowledge Base article.
Here is a list of what small BODs are required to fill each Blacksmith LBOD (remember that the metal types, item counts and quality types must correspond):
An LBOD Ringmail deed needs the following BOD’s: ringmail gloves, ringmail sleeves, ringmail legs, ringmail tunic
An LBOD Chainmail deed needs the following BOD’s: chainmail coif, chainmail legs, chainmail tunic
An LBOD Platemail deed needs the following BOD’s: platemail gorget, platemail gloves, plate helm, platemail arms, platemail legs, platemail tunic. Note that the Plate Helm is located in the Helmet part of the crafting tool gump, not the Platemail section.
An LBOD Axes deed needs the following BOD’s: large battle axe, double axe, battle axe, two-handed axe, axe, executioner’s axe
An LBOD Swords deed needs the following BOD’s: cutlass, viking sword, long sword, scimitar, broadsword, katana
An LBOD Macing deed needs the following BOD’s: mace, maul, war mace, war hammer, hammer pick, war axe. Note that the War Axe is in the Axe part of the Blacksmith tool gump, but is a macing weapon in terms of skill used in combat.
An LBOD Fencing deed needs the following BOD’s: dagger, kryss, war fork, short spear, spear. The first two are in the “Blades” part of the Blacksmith tool gump, the latter three are in the “Polearms” section.
An LBOD Polearm deed needs the following BOD’s: halberd, bardiche.
Here is what is required to fill each Tailor LBOD (with the same restrictions as the Blacksmith BODs):
An LBOD Footwear deed needs the following BOD’s: Sandals, Shoes, Boots, Thigh Boots
An LBOD Studded Leather deed needs the following BOD’s: Studded Gorget, Studded Gloves, Studded Sleeves, Studded Leggings, Studded Tunic (note: the “Studded Armor” is part of the female armor LBOD set below)
An LBOD Bone Armor deed needs the following BOD’s: Bone Helmet, Bone Gloves, Bone Arms, Bone Leggings, Bone Armor
An LBOD Male Armor suit deed needs the following BOD’s: Leather Cap, Leather Gloves, Leather Gorget, Leather Sleeves, Leather Leggings, Leather Tunic
An LBOD Female Armor deed needs the following BOD’s: Leather Skirt, Leather Shorts, Leather Bustier, Studded Bustier, Female Leather Armor, Studded Armor
An LBOD Hat deed (the only cloth LBOD that does not requre footwear)needs the following BOD’s: Cap, Tall Straw Hat, Wide-Brim Hat, Tricorne Hat.
All other “cloth” LBODs for Tailor (8 total) require one Footwear small BOD (each footwear type fits 2 of the 8; LBOD will say cloth, but any of the 4 leather type footwear BODs are meant), one specific hat type cloth small BOD, and two more specific cloth small BOD types (three for the only 5-part cloth LBOD, commonly referred to as the Town Crier, that gives the same rewards as the two 5-part leather LBODs).
BOD Reward Point Systems
These are a cleaned up version of the point systems given on the EA Knowledge Base web site. The one major difference is one not yet included in the KB articles, and that is the Bonus Points added to high-end BOD rewards, that now cause variability in rewards starting at the 120 Skill (Blacksmith) or 115 Skilll (Tailor) Scroll of Power level, and higher.
The Point System for Blacksmith BODs is as follows (taken from the official numbers at EA’s Support site, and corrected for typoes on EA’s behalf):
1. Count Points:
2. Quality Bonus: Add 200 Points if Exceptional
3. LBOD type (if an LBOD)
* note that for the longest time, there was a typo on the site that had Fencing at 300, & the 6-part weapons at 350 – hence the errors on the Tower of Roses charts for those weapons.
4. Metal Type
The Base Point value of a given BOD is these 4 values added together, ranging from 10 points for a small iron 10-count BOD to 1200 for a Large 20-count Exceptional Valorite Platemail BOD.
5. High End BOD Bonus: In 2008, an additional bonus was added to high-end BODs. It is believed that this bonus kicks in at the 900 or 1000 point level (confirmed for 1000, reported but not yet confirmed for the 900-point level; not very many people fill 120 Scroll BODs anymore, as most smiths already have them, and more urgent needs for the ingots). This bonus appears to range from 0-200 points (at least), and further modifies the reward for the BOD. It would seem from experience that this modifier is only applied 20-25% of the time, or only ends up high enough to cause a change in reward level that often. As a result, assume any LBOD at or above the 900 point level can end up producing a reward up to 200 points higher, possibly with a rare bonus being able to allow any of these to give a Valorite hammer.
The rewards, by point totals, are as follows. Blue items are considered to be the only desirable rewards from the Low-end BODs (under 900 points). From 900 points upward, every reward typically sells for hundreds of thousands of gold. Some people would also consider Copper Hammers valuable, but if you use the BOD cycling technique, you are likely to get so many Bronze hammers that filling larges for copper hammers (except the ones with the Anvil chances) will seem a waste of resources.
Low-end BODs (10-875 points)
High-end BODs (900-1200 Points). All are considered valuable rewards.
The Point System for Tailor BODs is as follows (taken from the official numbers at EA’s Support site, and corrected for typos on EA’s behalf):
1. What is the quantity requested of your BOD?
2. Is your BOD exceptional or regular?
3. Is your BOD a Large order (4 or more items)? BODs are worth the following points.
4. Now take the total value of your BOD from tables 1 through 3 and reference that point value.
5. Note that the High-End Bonus to the point system mentioned in the Blacksmith Table description ALSO applies to Tailor BODs at the 575 Point level and higher.
Thanks go to Sir Fruit of Cup & Nadia of Sonoma for original data. Updated January 2010 by Basara.
Last modified: July 17, 2013